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« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2009, 01:22:AM » |
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Yeah, thanks for that, Oldavid. You're right, about me any way, to some extent. But it's also important I think to step back and check things out now and again, rather than going all trad-gung-ho about things that are "always with us". I guess it's a "pick your battles" kind of thing for each person, but, as you say, that can easily turn into a "light under the bushell" state of mind.
I think that to some degree it's true that "reason" etc has been so undermined that we have to at least think about how we can practically bring some sense of it back before we try using it to get through to people. Maybe that's why Pope Benedict is more on the Memory-Hope-Beauty way of Augustine etc than the Intellect-Faith-Truth way of Aquinas etc. For now at least. Personally I'd like to see the day when the Will-Love-Goodness way is truly understood and taught and practised, but anyway...
And like I said, after a week's fishing and camp-firing, I feel like a total prat writing this kind of stuff for other people to read, as much as I believe in it. Sometimes we all need a week out there in nature away from silly words and stress-driven thoughts, to remind us of how silly (and serious) the game of words/ thoughts can be in God's eyes! (Which I hope is relevant to the thread topic!)
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« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2009, 06:22:AM » |
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Ah well,
It was nice to bump into you.
Goodbye all.
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Benno
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« Reply #47 on: July 21, 2009, 12:47:AM » |
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« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2009, 12:53:AM » |
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Yeah, wonder what that was all about. Where'd he go?
Gonna miss that old dude.
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"But the naturalists go much further; for, having, in the highest things, entered upon a wholly erroneous course, they are carried headlong to extremes, either by reason of the weakness of human nature, or because God inflicts upon them the just punishment of their pride. Hence it happens that they no longer consider as certain and permanent those things which are fully understood by the natural light of reason..." Pope Leo XIII, Humanum Genus  |
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Benno
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« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2009, 01:45:AM » |
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« Reply #50 on: July 29, 2009, 09:18:PM » |
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Orright!
I'll explain!
It seemed that the conversation had dried up. [It was more interesting when I was a bona fide, fair dinkum [real proper troll]]. B
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« Reply #51 on: July 29, 2009, 09:36:PM » |
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Orright!
I'll explain!
It seemed that the conversation had dried up. [It was more interesting when I was a bona fide, fair dinkum [real proper troll]]. B
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"But the naturalists go much further; for, having, in the highest things, entered upon a wholly erroneous course, they are carried headlong to extremes, either by reason of the weakness of human nature, or because God inflicts upon them the just punishment of their pride. Hence it happens that they no longer consider as certain and permanent those things which are fully understood by the natural light of reason..." Pope Leo XIII, Humanum Genus |
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« Reply #52 on: July 29, 2009, 11:34:PM » |
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I'm sorry,
I really did explain what I meant but three quaters of the post was missing.
Silly old codgers should/are effectively excluded.
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« Reply #53 on: August 01, 2009, 04:31:AM » |
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I must apologise.
It seems that cheap wine affects the brains much the same as the pricey stuff.
Do any of you have any ideas that might confront and challenge the modernists?
It seems to me that to quote wise documents (Church or otherwise) only elicits a "ho hum".
Jesus seems to have had the knack... re . scribes and pharisees.
Can't we do something similar?
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« Reply #54 on: August 01, 2009, 05:34:AM » |
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I didn't underline modernists.
I think that modernists are secular humanists that define their "humanism" in quasi christian terminology. Secular humanism is only a euphemism for atheism or pantheism.
Goodness,, troll has taken on a whole new meaning!
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Benno
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« Reply #55 on: August 21, 2009, 01:46:AM » |
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gee the philosophy forum is doing well!
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« Reply #56 on: August 21, 2009, 08:55:PM » |
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Later half of the 20Th century saw a decline in the influence of Modernism and the rise of Postmodernism. The latter is in fact a more insidious ideology than the former in that objective atheism meshed into murky relativism. Our present pope identified 'Relativism' as a modern scourge of the present generation. It's danger lies in rendering the 'Absolute' to a personal point of view and making the 'individual' an absolute point of view! How to you counter 'Relativism' when it also accords you equal relevance? Insidious, isn't it?
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« Reply #57 on: September 18, 2009, 01:48:AM » |
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gee the philosophy forum is doing well!
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