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Author Topic: Researchers: Earth and Venus may collide in 3.5 billion years  (Read 554 times)
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« on: June 10, 2009, 02:28:PM »

By Marlowe Hood Marlowe Hood – Wed Jun 10, 2:09 pm ET

PARIS (AFP) – A force known as orbital chaos may cause our Solar System to go haywire, leading to possible collision between Earth and Venus or Mars, according to a study released Wednesday.

The good news is that the likelihood of such a smash-up is small, around one-in-2500.

And even if the planets did careen into one another, it would not happen before another 3.5 billion years.

Indeed, there is a 99 percent chance that the Sun's posse of planets will continue to circle in an orderly pattern throughout the expected life span of our life-giving star, another five billion years, the study found.

After that, the Sun will likely expand into a red giant, engulfing Earth and its other inner planets -- Mercury, Venus and Mars -- in the process.

Astronomers have long been able to calculate the movement of planets with great accuracy hundreds, even thousands of years in advance. This is how eclipses have been predicted.

But peering further into the future of celestial mechanics with exactitude is still beyond our reach, said Jacques Laskar, a researcher at the Observatoire de Paris and lead author of the study.

"The most precise long-term solutions for the orbital motion of the Solar System are not valid over more than a few tens of millions of years," he said in an interview.

Using powerful computers, Laskar and colleague Mickael Gastineau generated numerical simulations of orbital instability over the next five billion years.

Unlike previous models, they took into account Albert Einstein's theory of general relativity. Over a short time span, this made little difference, but over the long haul it resulted in dramatically different orbital paths.

The researchers looked at 2,501 possible scenarios, 25 of which ended with a severely disrupted Solar System.

"There is one scenario in which Mars passes very close to Earth," 794 kilometres (493 miles) to be exact, said Laskar.

"When you come that close, it is almost the same as a collision because the planets gets torn apart."

Life on Earth, if there still were any, would almost certainly cease to exist.

To get a more fine-grained view of how this might unfold, Laskar and Gastineau ran an additional two hundred computer models, slightly changing the path of Mars each time.

All but five of them ended in a two-way collision involving the Sun, Earth, Mercury, Venus or Mars. A quarter of them saw Earth smashed to pieces.

The key to all the scenarios of extreme orbital chaos was the rock closest to the Sun, found the study, published in the British journal Nature.

"Mercury is the trigger, and would be be the first planet to be destabilised because it has the smallest mass," explained Laskar.

At some point Mercury's orbit would get into resonance with that of Jupiter, throwing the smaller orb even more out of kilter, he said.

Once this happens, the so-called "angular momentum" from the much larger Jupiter would wreak havoc on the other inner planets' orbits too.

"The simulations indicate that Mercury, in spite of its diminutive size, poses the greatest risk to our present order," noted University of California scientists Gregory Laughlin in a commentary, also published in Nature.
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2009, 02:45:PM »

Thanks, I'll mark that on my calendar. 
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2009, 03:23:PM »

The intelligentsia makes another prognostication.
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2009, 06:57:PM »

"the sun's posse of planets"?    Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2009, 05:49:AM »

People actually get funding to come up with these statements?
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2009, 07:15:AM »

I don't know whether any of you are familiar with Charles Fort.... and I'm not saying he is/was a reliable source of information... but one of his books dealing with the entire science of astronomy is so scathing, it really clarifies the picture on some of these "prognostications" and their purely theoretical frame-work. So yeah.... Venus and Earth will collide in a few billions years. Good to know.
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2009, 07:58:AM »

 Shocked  Good grief!  What're we gonna do?!!  Surely the govt can save us?!!  What does his holiness the modern prophet have to say?  Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2009, 09:38:AM »

We should open dialouge with Venus and tell her how mean and cruel we've been to her and that we apologize and we must work together in the spirit of hope and renewal.
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2009, 11:06:AM »

We should open dialouge with Venus and tell her how mean and cruel we've been to her and that we apologize and we must work together in the spirit of hope and renewal.

A couple of "anti-hate" laws for those who disapprove of Venus (call them sexist too), a very rainbow rallies with lewd suggestions about Venus and Mars getting together, we'll be all set.
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2009, 09:09:AM »

Okay... Laughing
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2009, 05:16:PM »

Well since the planet's doomed anyway, we may as well forget all this environmentalism and global wartming nonsense and just go berserk with consumption and waste.   
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2009, 07:48:PM »

What rubbish.

They cannot even predict the weather accurately.
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2009, 08:17:PM »

The star "Wormwood," anyone?

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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2009, 08:30:PM »

I guess I'll have to get my starship ready by then.
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