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« Reply #45 on: July 02, 2009, 07:57:PM » |
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Sometimes the transfers simply don't make sense from a practical pastoral point of view. Some of the best preachers in English are sent to places where they don't learn the language very easily or very well.
Others come to the English speaking countries from non-English speaking countries and they are virtually incomprehensible. They often struggle from the pulpit because they are trying to express theology in the 5th language they've had to learn.
How they operate in the confessional is beyond me. I've had to go find a Novus Ordo priest on occasion and re-confess because the lines of communication were so crossed that the whole confession was a bomb.
I only know of a few priests that have that superlative ability to learn languages and globe hop like that.
The national languages of India are English and Hindi. English is the only language spoken everywhere in India. There are over 20 scheduled languages. Most Indians know English. In fact, English is the only language one can use in all parts of India (in Tamil Nadu, there is great resistance to using Hindi at all). It's India with yes heat and disease where people will starve and let cows eat their vegetables instead of killing and eating the cow itself. Not to mention the recent persecution of Christians from Hindus. And why would you bring up "brown people?" Do you think I would consider affiliation with those of a different skin color to be punishment?!
India is incredibly diverse. The persecution of Christians isn't everywhere. Also, cows are not sacred everywhere, and the heat is only a problem in some areas. |
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« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2009, 07:58:PM » |
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Well India does sound like punishment.  India is a great place sometimes. I do want to go there someday. |
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« Reply #47 on: July 02, 2009, 08:32:PM » |
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Knowing how the SSPX works, those types of "reassignments" are a type of punishment. Wonder what they did???
Did you mean to label these two priests by implication? Not at all. The SSPX is notorious for banishing its priests who don't follow the party line. This type of "discipline" is a fact known by many, and just because many who post here are ignorant of this doesn't change a thing. On the other hand, this whole thing could be above board. No one will ever know the real truth. But hey, who really cares if the parties involved don't? Time to move on... I do not agree that these types of assignments are punishments. Please give examples so that I will not be ignorant. |
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« Reply #48 on: July 02, 2009, 08:58:PM » |
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Why?...too many brown people? poverty? heat?? Why would you bring up "brown people"? Most of the Christians in the world are brown. Indeed, a hefty chunk of the SSPX clergy are brown, many coming from Mexico or South America, Africa, or the Philippines. As such, it makes no sense they would be adverse to brown folk. It is true that India has a poverty we can scarcely imagine. In addition, I have heard of Anglo priests assigned there keeling over or vomiting in the middle of Mass because they caught some bug in their ministry. Apparently ants are everywhere too, even crawling out of sink drains! So India has its hardships. However, knowing priests ministering there, the natives are quite friendly. Even if they're not interested in converting, the Hindus are always begging the priests to bless them so they can get more Rupees. Indeed, Indians are by far the nicest group of people I have come across. |
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« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2009, 04:24:AM » |
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Well India does sound like punishment. India is a great place sometimes. I do want to go there someday. Food's delicious, too. |
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« Reply #50 on: July 03, 2009, 05:48:AM » |
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Food's delicious, too. Chicken saag and naan as the best! |
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« Reply #51 on: July 03, 2009, 12:15:PM » |
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Knowing how the SSPX works, those types of "reassignments" are a type of punishment. Wonder what they did???
Fr Pfeiffer explicitly requested his transfer to India...for his own reasons. God has a most docile instrument in this holy priest. He is a warrior for Catholicism with the burning zeal of a St Francis Xavier; and like St Francis, will work tirelessly in the Indian mission. He will be sorely missed. We pray for his success. Fr Gerardo Zendejas was the special instrument of grace that Our Lord used to build Christ the King Church and institute St Padre Pio School in the St Ignatius Parish...he has accomplished what he set out to do. This holy priest inspired everyone around him; especially the love/true devotion he has for Our Lady...no doubt God needs his talents for another special mission. God bless both these valiant souls. |
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« Reply #52 on: July 03, 2009, 01:41:PM » |
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Have they announced the replacement for Ridgefield?
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« Reply #53 on: July 03, 2009, 02:29:PM » |
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Have they announced the replacement for Ridgefield? Fr. McDonald. |
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« Reply #54 on: July 03, 2009, 02:58:PM » |
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Knowing how the SSPX works, those types of "reassignments" are a type of punishment. Wonder what they did???
Fr Pfeiffer explicitly requested his transfer to India...for his own reasons. God has a most docile instrument in this holy priest. He is a warrior for Catholicism with the burning zeal of a St Francis Xavier; and like St Francis, will work tirelessly in the Indian mission. He will be sorely missed. We pray for his success. Fr Gerardo Zendejas was the special instrument of grace that Our Lord used to build Christ the King Church and institute St Padre Pio School in the St Ignatius Parish...he has accomplished what he set out to do. This holy priest inspired everyone around him; especially the love/true devotion he has for Our Lady...no doubt God needs his talents for another special mission. God bless both these valiant souls. We still miss Fr. Pfeiffer in San Antonio. |
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« Reply #55 on: July 07, 2009, 04:10:PM » |
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Knowing how the SSPX works, those types of "reassignments" are a type of punishment. Wonder what they did???
Did you mean to label these two priests by implication? Not at all. The SSPX is notorious for banishing its priests who don't follow the party line. This type of "discipline" is a fact known by many, and just because many who post here are ignorant of this doesn't change a thing. On the other hand, this whole thing could be above board. No one will ever know the real truth. But hey, who really cares if the parties involved don't? Time to move on... Notorious??? Many make that accusation but an accusation is not evidence of wrongdoing of the accused any more than it reflects some wronging doing on the part of the accuser. It could be SSPX does as you say and yet it may not. There are many who make false charges as well as those who make valid claims of ill will on the part of another. I have no judgment on this accusation one way or the other. I do think an accusation without supporting evidence as evidence of something and it does not reflect well on the one making the accusation. As an observer of things Traditional Catholic I notice many people will find fault in SSPX and accuse them of an iron fist type of administration and in the very next topic praise the strong arm of Pope Pius XII. The common characteristic is very modern in that too many seek hard discipline for those we disagree but chafe at the same style directed at those we like. I do not mean to suggest the wrong behavior of wayward Priests and Bishops should not be dealt with but there are bad actors in the Traditional ranks as well. There are way too many former SSPX Priests running around in purple to make the claim there was no problem in the ranks. They are too much like the worst of the Novus Ordo Priests in that they too do not want to be under the authority of another. They are like the Pharisees that Christ called hypocrites. They demand the restoration of a hierarchy and respect for authority and yet refuse to do so themselves. The spirit of our modern age is anarchy and it seems to have infected the Traditional Catholic movement just like it has the rest of the world. I support the SSPX but am favorable toward FSSP. I am also a convert from a Protestant sect that is a nightmare. I tell you this so you know the base from which I stand. I was not raised Catholic so I do not have an assumed concept as to what it is to be truly Catholic. I see many problems because I do not have an emotional attachment to any one issue other than looking for the right path. Catholic doctrine is correct but the execution differs in each camp that makes it hard to see where doctrine's borderline is located and the doctrine of self-centered delusions begins. I trust I have made everybody uncomfortable with this last line. |
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« Reply #56 on: July 07, 2009, 09:34:PM » |
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The national languages of India are English and Hindi. English is the only language spoken everywhere in India. There are over 20 scheduled languages. Most Indians know English. In fact, English is the only language one can use in all parts of India (in Tamil Nadu, there is great resistance to using Hindi at all). India may well be less problematic but I was more thinking of SSPX priests in America that are really struggling with their English when there are plenty of English-speaking priests struggling to learn a second, third or fourth language. |
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« Reply #57 on: July 09, 2009, 09:40:AM » |
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Have they announced the replacement for Ridgefield? Fr. McDonald. Fr. Steven McDonald? If so, then who's replacing him in Richmond? |
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« Reply #58 on: July 09, 2009, 09:51:AM » |
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My dad just told me that Fr. Goldade is in Denver now also.
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