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« on: July 07, 2009, 09:21:AM » |
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The Vatican -- Pope Benedict XVI has released a new encyclical Caritas in veritate (Love in Truth), that says the numerous social political issues are all tied to the pro-life ethic. The leader of the Catholic Church made it clear that human life must be protected from conception on and that the pro-life perspective can't be compromised in pursuit of common ground on other political issues. Full story at: http://www.LifeNews.com/int1258.html |
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2009, 09:40:AM » |
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The Vatican -- Pope Benedict XVI has released a new encyclical Caritas in veritate (Love in Truth), that says the numerous social political issues are all tied to the pro-life ethic. The leader of the Catholic Church made it clear that human life must be protected from conception on and that the pro-life perspective can't be compromised in pursuit of common ground on other political issues. Full story at: http://www.LifeNews.com/int1258.htmlGood to know, guess the Lesser of 2 Evils option is not really one then..Obama was 100% pro-death, McCain 99%, so in principle, no option of either...Chuck Baldwin-end all abortions, federal funding for them and fed funding for contraceptives,e tc......none of which is constitutional......but alas, the bigges cowards of Evangelicals and Trad Catholics in the arena...... |
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Don't blame me, I voted Baldwin 2008!
"Catholics throughout the country are again accepting `the lesser of two evils'.... They fail to see the body of Catholic social teaching of such men as Fr. Vincent McNabb, G.K. Chesterton, Belloc, Eric Gill and other Distributists ... and lose all sight of The Little Way."
-Dorothy Day
I thank God that I live in a day when the enemy is outside the Church, and I know where he is, and what he is up to. But, I foresee a day when the enemy will be both outside and inside the Church ... and, I pray for the poor faithful who will be caught in the crossfire. --Cardinal Newman
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2009, 07:33:PM » |
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Sounds like a good encyclicle if so it'll be this Holy Fathers first one that hasnt been a complete waste of paper. If he is so concerned with orginizations pushing abortion on third world countries he may want to quit bowing at the alter of the UN though.
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Venerable Pius XII pray for us.
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2009, 08:22:PM » |
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Sounds like a good encyclicle if so it'll be this Holy Fathers first one that hasnt been a complete waste of paper. If he is so concerned with orginizations pushing abortion on third world countries he may want to quit bowing at the alter of the UN though. Unfortunately, he never gets around condemning abortion as a mortal sin, or saying it is not permitted, except perhaps forced abortions. I don't think you will find any pro-abortion advocate saying abortion is a great thing. I doubt any woman enjoys getting an abortion. So saying its bad is not the same as condemning it in strong language. Considering all of the confusion over the Obama election, don't you thing he should have gotten around to condemning abortion as a horrible demonic sacrafice and completely denounced politicians that support it? Please quote me where he does this. I only wish this encyclical was a waste of paper. The endorsement of a one world government makes it a catastrophe. |
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2009, 03:50:AM » |
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Good to know, guess the Lesser of 2 Evils option is not really one then..Obama was 100% pro-death, McCain 99%, so in principle, no option of either...Chuck Baldwin-end all abortions, federal funding for them and fed funding for contraceptives,e tc......none of which is constitutional......but alas, the bigges cowards of Evangelicals and Trad Catholics in the arena......
Is really the abortion of the American babies the only life issue? Mc Cain promoted the irresponsible war in Iraq, which results in death of thausands innocent lifes. Mo presidential candidate planed to help the UNICEF to provide free immunization for the children in the third world, which given the 26 million death in the first 2 years of tehir life could save at least 2.5 million innocent lifes. My analysis was that McCain promised to appoint Supreme Court judges who would vote 100 percent for the republican issues (wars, privileges of the riches, controlling the individual rights for the shake of their issues etc) and may be (already 7 out 9 judges are Republican appointed) would vote for the issues related to the mortal life of American fetuses and embryos according to the pro lifers. He also supposted the good relations with a state (Chine) with forced abortion laws proving that his pro life is restricted to American fetuses. Why is the mortal life of the American fetuses ABSOLUTE value? Should not be God and the balanced word be the center of our moral? Sometimes I have a feeling that as the pharisee in Jesus time believed that if the keep the Sabbath laws then God will be forced to their side, the pro lifers believe that fighting for the mortal life of American fetuses will cover everything else. laszlo |
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2009, 09:05:AM » |
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Good to know, guess the Lesser of 2 Evils option is not really one then..Obama was 100% pro-death, McCain 99%, so in principle, no option of either...Chuck Baldwin-end all abortions, federal funding for them and fed funding for contraceptives,e tc......none of which is constitutional......but alas, the bigges cowards of Evangelicals and Trad Catholics in the arena......
Is really the abortion of the American babies the only life issue? Mc Cain promoted the irresponsible war in Iraq, which results in death of thausands innocent lifes. Mo presidential candidate planed to help the UNICEF to provide free immunization for the children in the third world, which given the 26 million death in the first 2 years of tehir life could save at least 2.5 million innocent lifes. My analysis was that McCain promised to appoint Supreme Court judges who would vote 100 percent for the republican issues (wars, privileges of the riches, controlling the individual rights for the shake of their issues etc) and may be (already 7 out 9 judges are Republican appointed) would vote for the issues related to the mortal life of American fetuses and embryos according to the pro lifers. He also supposted the good relations with a state (Chine) with forced abortion laws proving that his pro life is restricted to American fetuses. Why is the mortal life of the American fetuses ABSOLUTE value? Should not be God and the balanced word be the center of our moral? Sometimes I have a feeling that as the pharisee in Jesus time believed that if the keep the Sabbath laws then God will be forced to their side, the pro lifers believe that fighting for the mortal life of American fetuses will cover everything else. laszlo What a stupid position. So we let Obama get elected. Iraqi babies are still getting killed, and we're picking up speed with Mexican and the rest of the world as well. Plus any babie that by some miracle makes it out of the womb won't have a pot left to pee in once it's potty trained. Letting Obama take the White House was just so much more nuanced, acceptable and enlightened. |
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2009, 09:19:AM » |
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No, what's stupid is thinking that party politics is going to save anyone's life.
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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2009, 01:17:PM » |
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No, what's stupid is thinking that party politics is going to save anyone's life.
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Well, it would be just like you to drag your keyboard to a gunfight. "I know very well that without God's grace there is nothing good in me, and that I am as much a piece of useless, stinking shit as anyone else, if not more." the Cardinal of Mainz and Chancellor of the Holy Roman Empire, 1521 "The media have no idea what a real Catholic is. If they did, they would scream for his martyrdom, they would scream for his skin."-His Eminence, Bishop Williamson, 2005 This is it, boys, this is war. "Oh wait, I almost forgot. This thread is locked because it's stupid." -Quis |
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2009, 01:26:PM » |
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Why is the mortal life of the American fetuses ABSOLUTE value? Should not be God and the balanced word be the center of our moral?
Sometimes I have a feeling that as the pharisee in Jesus time believed that if the keep the Sabbath laws then God will be forced to their side, the pro lifers believe that fighting for the mortal life of American fetuses will cover everything else. You are sick. The term is "American babies". Whenever I read the word "fetus" I see pictures of torn up baby parts burned with chemicals. The Iraq war is a pimple on a gnats @$$ compared to the Mount Everest of evil that abortion is. Abortion is a blood sacrafice to the devils. I did not vote for McCain, but I could have. A Catholic could never vote for Obama, whose hands are dripping with the blood of millions of dead babies. Oh, and by the way, of course the AMERICAN President should be concerned about AMERICAN babies. The world can vote for its own governments, it's time Americans worried about Americans first. By the way, I want the US out of Iraq, but that is nothing compared to the demon blood sacrafices called abortions. |
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