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« on: July 08, 2009, 02:21:PM » |
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Prime Minister Stephen Harper should not have accepted communion at Roméo LeBlanc's state funeral in Memramcook, N.B., the archbishop of Moncton said Wednesday.
Msgr. André Richard said the church law is clear, but he is not looking for any apologies or explanations from Harper or the Prime Minister's Office.
Cameras were rolling when communion hosts were offered to people attending the funeral for the former governor general on July 3.
Harper, who is a devout Protestant, accepted the host but appeared to put it in his program or his pocket, according to some onlookers.
However, a review of videotape shot at the event was inconclusive, and the Prime Minister's Office says Harper consumed the wafer, in accordance with Catholic law.
A PMO spokesman, Dimitri Soudas, said the camera didn't show the whole story.
"Unfortunately, the camera did not stop long enough on the prime minister, but, as I told you, the prime minister is a Christian, and when he was offered communion by the priest, he accepted it, and consumed it as well," Soudas said.
'The church law is the church law'
But Richard said that, according to Catholic law, Harper shouldn't have accepted it at all.
"Only the Catholics can receive communion. The church law is the church law, and when you are attending a Catholic service, you go by the church service," he said.
Soudas said he doesn't see how Harper had a choice.
"I would simply say, 'Who is the prime minister to question a priest who offered him communion?'"
Catholic protocol says non-Catholics or people who do not want to receive communion can either keep their hands folded when they approach the altar as wafers are being distributed, or remain seated.
Richard said it wasn't up to him to brief the prime minister beforehand, but he doubts this was Harper's first Catholic mass.
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2009, 02:24:PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2009, 03:36:PM » |
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Please post comments on that YouTube video in defense of the dignity of the Most Blessed Sacrament. There are many disgusting comments there mocking the sacrifice of Our Lord. It's simply unbearable that Jesus Christ continues to come under so much mockery and indignity.
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Kingston Traditional Latin Mass: http://kingstontlm.blogspot.com/"No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church."- Pope Eugene IV "Our Lord is not 'El Cheapo'. Our Lord does not work on an 'El Cheapo' basis. Our Lord is 'El Expensivo'. Our Lord costs, because eternity is extremely precious." - Bishop Williamson, SSPX "Whoever wants to be saved should above all cling to the Catholic faith: whoever does not guard it whole and inviolate will doubtless perish eternally." - Saint Athanasius |
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spera
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2009, 03:58:PM » |
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NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!
Oh goodness! This is what we get when we vote for a crazy super subdenominational power robot! He is so scary!!!!!
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“When we allow abortion, we are punishing the women—who must abort their children because their men have run away- and we are punishing the children whose lives are terminated . . . I want us to step back a little bit and say: Why is this woman and this child threatened? Why is this woman threatening to terminate this life? What do we need to do as a society? What are we not doing right now as a society? A part of that answer lies in this House [pointing at the Kenyan Parliament building].” Wangaari Maathai - Environmentalist, Feminist, Catholic & Nobel Prize Winner HEALTHY VIEWING FOR YOUR HEART, MIND AND SOUL FEELING TEMPTED ONLINE?.... Watch these In Case of Emergency!!! www.familyland.tvwww.ewtn.com www.saltandlighttv.org |
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2009, 04:15:PM » |
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Why did the priest approach the pew and offer it to him? That's ridiculous. Communion is not a delivery service in church. You can't blame a Protestant in that case.
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2009, 05:31:PM » |
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This is clearly the Priest's fault..... He should not have offered it,,, I think the PM was put in an uncomfortable spot, considering the circumstances.
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2009, 05:44:PM » |
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Harper and the bishops should have known better. This isn't the first time this sort of thing has happened. Dauphin, I don't want to read the ugly comments about Jesus. Sorry. It's just too depressing.  |
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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2009, 05:52:PM » |
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oh man!
well Harper is a prod so i doubt he knew what he was being handed. i don't know but prods certainly don't respect the real presence. but again it must be asked why did the priest deliver the host to Harper? i don't know if Harper will apologize but i hope he does. if this was something like using the wrong comb at some seik devil worship or sitting at the wrong side of mosque there would be a hell storm.
certainly not what the conservatives need right now considering the 400 grand they gave to the unrepentant sodomite pride day love in, in Toronto.
just sayin
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2009, 06:33:PM » |
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Ban Communion in the hand and this won't happen. What a stupid indult!
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Iuvenalis
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2009, 06:41:PM » |
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Ban Communion in the hand and this won't happen. What a stupid indult!
Oh yes, case in point. Ban that, and this wouldn't have happened. |
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"But the naturalists go much further; for, having, in the highest things, entered upon a wholly erroneous course, they are carried headlong to extremes, either by reason of the weakness of human nature, or because God inflicts upon them the just punishment of their pride. Hence it happens that they no longer consider as certain and permanent those things which are fully understood by the natural light of reason..." Pope Leo XIII, Humanum Genus  |
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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2009, 08:59:PM » |
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Well, the priest may or may not have known whether the prime minister is Catholic. I assume the prime minister is as well known (and his religion known) just as well as Obama and his religion is known? (Not to derail this thread, but I really don't know Obama's religion, but it isn't Catholic.) Anyway, the prime minister clearly held out his hand. It was not like the priest forced the Body of Christ upon him. So, there is a little blame to go around here. Perhaps the priest was "going through the motions" saw the hand an placed the host there. The best you can say for the priest is that he obviously was not paying attention to what he was doing. Also, the prime minister was complicit in that he held out his hand to request communion. I blame them both.
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Iuvenalis
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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2009, 09:00:PM » |
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I blame you.
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"But the naturalists go much further; for, having, in the highest things, entered upon a wholly erroneous course, they are carried headlong to extremes, either by reason of the weakness of human nature, or because God inflicts upon them the just punishment of their pride. Hence it happens that they no longer consider as certain and permanent those things which are fully understood by the natural light of reason..." Pope Leo XIII, Humanum Genus |
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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2009, 10:10:PM » |
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The fact that Harper is a fundie prot is fairly well known here. I cannot imagine a Catholic priest, who believes our Holy Faith, offering him Comminion.
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spera
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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2009, 11:27:PM » |
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Hey, you think this could make the news and people could learn about the Most Blessed Sacrament??
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“When we allow abortion, we are punishing the women—who must abort their children because their men have run away- and we are punishing the children whose lives are terminated . . . I want us to step back a little bit and say: Why is this woman and this child threatened? Why is this woman threatening to terminate this life? What do we need to do as a society? What are we not doing right now as a society? A part of that answer lies in this House [pointing at the Kenyan Parliament building].” Wangaari Maathai - Environmentalist, Feminist, Catholic & Nobel Prize Winner HEALTHY VIEWING FOR YOUR HEART, MIND AND SOUL FEELING TEMPTED ONLINE?.... Watch these In Case of Emergency!!! www.familyland.tvwww.ewtn.com www.saltandlighttv.org |
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2009, 12:38:AM » |
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Hey, you think this could make the news and people could learn about the Most Blessed Sacrament??
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"But the naturalists go much further; for, having, in the highest things, entered upon a wholly erroneous course, they are carried headlong to extremes, either by reason of the weakness of human nature, or because God inflicts upon them the just punishment of their pride. Hence it happens that they no longer consider as certain and permanent those things which are fully understood by the natural light of reason..." Pope Leo XIII, Humanum Genus |
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