Jacafamala
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« on: October 09, 2009, 04:56:PM » |
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I've spent the past few days over debating at a Protestant forum. It was refreshing, because you know what? I don't know, am I crazy for saying it or what? I feel like I have a whole new take on the situation.
The NO isn't the enemy. The changes were unfortunate, yes but you know who the real enemies are? The real enemies of the Church are the denominations that exist to hate Catholics. That's where the front line is.
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2009, 05:12:PM » |
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There are three basic kinds of enemies of Christ these days: the enemy without (secularists), the enemy within (the NO/modernists who claim to be Catholic), and those caught in the middle (heretics).
I don't know if I can say which is worse.
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Jacafamala
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2009, 05:31:PM » |
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On the Protestant Forum I've been spending time at, either you're Catholic or you're Protestant. No different types of Catholics. It's refreshing.
And I'm still as traditional as before. I still feel the same way about that.
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Jacafamala
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2009, 05:46:PM » |
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Not that all the Protestants there are bad, but when they are bad they are horrid.
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“Hear me and understand well, my son the least, that nothing should frighten or grieve you. Let not your heart be disturbed. Do not fear that sickness, nor any other sickness or anguish. Am I not here, who is your Mother? Are you not under my protection? Am I not your health? Are you not happily within my fold? What else do you wish?..." |
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2009, 05:46:PM » |
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On the Protestant Forum I've been spending time at, either you're Catholic or you're Protestant. No different types of Catholics. It's refreshing. Strange, isn't it? There are no divisions among the Babylonians. |
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While those who give scandal are guilty of the spiritual equivalent of murder, those who take scandal- who allow scandals to destroy faith- are guilty of spiritual suicide. -- St. Francis de Sales
Charity unites us to God... There is nothing mean in charity, nothing arrogant. Charity knows no schism, does not rebel, does all things in concord. In charity all the elect of God have been made perfect. -- Pope St. Clement I
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2009, 05:58:PM » |
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On the Protestant Forum I've been spending time at, either you're Catholic or you're Protestant. No different types of Catholics. It's refreshing. Strange, isn't it? There are no divisions among the Babylonians. I don't know. From my childhood among them they have far more divisions than ourselves. Despite any outward appearances of unity. |
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2009, 06:03:PM » |
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On the Protestant Forum I've been spending time at, either you're Catholic or you're Protestant. No different types of Catholics. It's refreshing. Strange, isn't it? There are no divisions among the Babylonians. I don't know. From my childhood among them they have far more divisions than ourselves. Despite any outward appearances of unity. I was being facetious. Babylonians = Catholics (as in "Whore of Babylon'). |
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- Lisa
While those who give scandal are guilty of the spiritual equivalent of murder, those who take scandal- who allow scandals to destroy faith- are guilty of spiritual suicide. -- St. Francis de Sales
Charity unites us to God... There is nothing mean in charity, nothing arrogant. Charity knows no schism, does not rebel, does all things in concord. In charity all the elect of God have been made perfect. -- Pope St. Clement I
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2009, 06:05:PM » |
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ah I see!  |
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2009, 06:12:PM » |
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ah I see! I guess it wasn't very nice of me.. but Jaca has a point. Our enemies don't care about novus ordo or trad.. A Babylonian is a Babylonian and (as Dr. Bombay would say) we're doomed. |
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- Lisa
While those who give scandal are guilty of the spiritual equivalent of murder, those who take scandal- who allow scandals to destroy faith- are guilty of spiritual suicide. -- St. Francis de Sales
Charity unites us to God... There is nothing mean in charity, nothing arrogant. Charity knows no schism, does not rebel, does all things in concord. In charity all the elect of God have been made perfect. -- Pope St. Clement I
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2009, 09:07:PM » |
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Yes, the divisions in Christendom do a serious amount of harm. More so than the divisions in Catholicism. People often see the whole slew of Christian churches and say "see, they can't even make up their own minds!" It's no usually use explaining that the Catholic Church came first. sigh  |
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2009, 09:46:PM » |
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On the Protestant Forum I've been spending time at, either you're Catholic or you're Protestant They lie. Want to prove it? Ask them who is right, Dave Hunt or James White. Hunt is an evangelical who says calvinists are not saved. White says evangelicals aren't saved. Ask that question if you want to stir up the hive. By the way, these aren't no names. These are leading figures for their corresponding sects. |
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2009, 07:16:AM » |
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... either you're Catholic or you're Protestant. No different types of Catholics.
No, you are either a Catholic or a heretic, Protestants are heretics and the Protestant 'Reformation' wasn't a 'reformation' but a revolution. Also I despise the term traditional Catholic, the NO Church is just another heresy and traditional Catholics are quite simply ordinary believing Catholics. 'Cafeteria Catholics' aren't Catholics anymore than you can consider the Pelagians or the Arians as Catholics. As for the worst enemy of the Church, and you can say for a fact, would belong to the enemy within that saps the unity and the strength of the Church to deal with Her enemies without, divide and conquer. Where there is division amongst the whole there is weakness and where there is division there is doubt, not faith. |
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Jacafamala
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2009, 10:20:AM » |
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On the Protestant Forum I've been spending time at, either you're Catholic or you're Protestant They lie. Want to prove it? Ask them who is right, Dave Hunt or James White. Hunt is an evangelical who says calvinists are not saved. White says evangelicals aren't saved. Ask that question if you want to stir up the hive. By the way, these aren't no names. These are leading figures for their corresponding sects. Yes, good. Thanks. Also Harold Camping, ever check him out? He's an old fundie from way back, gone off on a new tangent. Anyone left in the churches is not a "true believer". He says true believers need to come out of the churches. |
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“Hear me and understand well, my son the least, that nothing should frighten or grieve you. Let not your heart be disturbed. Do not fear that sickness, nor any other sickness or anguish. Am I not here, who is your Mother? Are you not under my protection? Am I not your health? Are you not happily within my fold? What else do you wish?..." |
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Jacafamala
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2009, 10:22:AM » |
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... either you're Catholic or you're Protestant. No different types of Catholics.
No, you are either a Catholic or a heretic, Protestants are heretics and the Protestant 'Reformation' wasn't a 'reformation' but a revolution. Also I despise the term traditional Catholic, the NO Church is just another heresy and traditional Catholics are quite simply ordinary believing Catholics. 'Cafeteria Catholics' aren't Catholics anymore than you can consider the Pelagians or the Arians as Catholics. As for the worst enemy of the Church, and you can say for a fact, would belong to the enemy within that saps the unity and the strength of the Church to deal with Her enemies without, divide and conquer. Where there is division amongst the whole there is weakness and where there is division there is doubt, not faith. sometimes lately I wonder if God will use militant Islam to persecute the Church back into unity. If we were all in Sudan, then the battle lines would change. Definitely. In Sudan, you'd be thankful for another Christian, period. When they attack the Eucharist, oral Tradition, the Blessed Mother, the Mass the Protestants don't know from new Mass or old. |
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“Hear me and understand well, my son the least, that nothing should frighten or grieve you. Let not your heart be disturbed. Do not fear that sickness, nor any other sickness or anguish. Am I not here, who is your Mother? Are you not under my protection? Am I not your health? Are you not happily within my fold? What else do you wish?..." |
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Jacafamala
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2009, 10:33:AM » |
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On the Protestant Forum I've been spending time at, either you're Catholic or you're Protestant. No different types of Catholics. It's refreshing. Strange, isn't it? There are no divisions among the Babylonians. I don't know. From my childhood among them they have far more divisions than ourselves. Despite any outward appearances of unity. I was being facetious. Babylonians = Catholics (as in "Whore of Babylon'). Very good. |
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“Hear me and understand well, my son the least, that nothing should frighten or grieve you. Let not your heart be disturbed. Do not fear that sickness, nor any other sickness or anguish. Am I not here, who is your Mother? Are you not under my protection? Am I not your health? Are you not happily within my fold? What else do you wish?..." |
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