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The Scientific Impossibilty of Evolutionhttp://sites.google.com/site/scientificcritiqueofevolution/Scientific Conference Refuting Evolution Theory to be held in Rome, ItalyThe Scientific Impossibility of EvolutionNovember 9, 2009 9:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.
St. Pius V University (Rome)
In Response to Pope Benedict XVI’s Call for Both Sides to be Heard CONTACT: H. M. OWEN (U.S.), noevolutioninfo@gmail.com or PETER WILDERS (Europe), wilderspeter@gmail.comThe 150th anniversary of Darwin’s "Origin of the Species" in November 2009 will be the occasion for a unique conference at Pope Pius V University in Rome presenting a scientific refutation of evolution theory. According to Russian sedimentologist Alexander Lalamov, “Everything contained in Darwin’s Origin of Species depends upon rocks forming slowly over enormous periods of time. The November conference demonstrates with empirical data that such geological time is not available for evolution.” Recently returned from a ground-breaking geological conference in Kazan, sedimentologist Guy Berthault will present the findings of several sedimentological studies conducted and published in Russia. In one of these, the age of the rock formation surveyed was found to be 0.01% of the age attributed to it by the geological time-scale—instead of an age of 10 million years, the actual age was no more than 10 thousand years. “Contrary to the conventional wisdom,” Lalamov observed, “these rocks formed quickly, and the fossils they contain must be relatively young. This finding contradicts the evolutionary interpretation of the fossil record.” http://www.sedimentology.fr According to US biophysicist Dr. Dean Kenyon, “Biological macroevolution collapses without the twin pillars of the geological time-scale and the fossil record as currently interpreted. Few scientists would contest this statement. This is why the upcoming conference concentrates on geology and paleontology. Recent research in these two disciplines adds powerful support to the already formidable case against teaching Darwinian macroevolution as if it were proven fact.” Participating scientists include:--Guy Berthault, a renowned sedimentologist from France and experimenter in fundamental physics and sedimentology, member of the French Geological Society and the Association of Sedimentologists. --Maciej Giertych, a population geneticist from Kornik, Poland, who holds advanced degrees in genetics, forestry and tree physiology. --Thomas Seiler, a physicist from Germany with a Ph.D. in physics from the University of Munich --Jean de Pontcharra, a physicist in France and director of the renowned research group CEA-LETI (Commissariat à l'Energie Atomique, Laboratoire d'Electronique et de Technologie de l'Informatique). --Josef Holzschuh, a geophysicist from Australia with a Ph.D. in geophysics from the University of Western Australia. Abstracts of the presentations can be viewed on-line at http://sites.google.com/site/scientificcritiqueofevolution/ “The Scientific Impossibility of Evolution” conference is being held in direct response to Benedict XIV's request that both sides of the evolution controversy be heard. Thomas Seiler, a participant in the conference said: “In the light of astounding new scientific breakthroughs, particularly in geology, we hope the worldwide scientific community will acknowledge the overwhelming evidence against the theory of evolution.” The conference begins at 9:30 a.m. on November 9 in the auditorium of St. Pius V University (Via Cristoforo Colombo, No. 200). Entrance is free although the number of seats is limited. It is open to the public and members of the press and media, but reservations are recommended. Reservations can be made by email at noevolutioninfo@gmail.com; or Peter Wilders (Europe phone 377 93 50 88 34)
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2009, 12:24:AM » |
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Slightly off-topic POG but what did you think of Nick Griffin on question time last night.
I personally thought that everyone else was such a liberal facist that I'm tempted to vote for the BNP to encourage at least the conservative party to move a little to the right and capture my vote again. He was very nervous and sweaty and he needs a new hair cut but at least he has the balls to say what he thinks.
That said I might just note vote and wait for the chastisement instead and watch them all burn.
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2009, 05:10:AM » |
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Posted by ggreg
Slightly off-topic POG but what did you think of Nick Griffin on question time last night. Slimey, smarmy, spivy, and lacking principles. I thought that he fitted in well with the rest of them  |
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2009, 06:38:AM » |
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Agreed, he was best of a bad bunch I guess.
Not much point in voting in May then really.
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2009, 07:17:AM » |
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Zenithttp://www.zenit.org/article-27351?l=englishScholars Aim to Disprove DarwinAs Theory Turns 150, Scientists Say It's ImpossibleROME, OCT. 26, 2009 (Zenit.org).- As the theory of evolution turns 150 years old, one group of scholars is calling it a scientific impossibility. After a year of conferences celebrating the 150th anniversary of Darwin's 1859 book, "On the Origin of Species," a Nov. 9 conference is planned to provide empirical proof to debunk evolution. Rome's Pope Pius V University will host the daylong conference that will present a scientific refutation of evolution theory. Peter Wilders and H. M. Owen, organizers of the event, told ZENIT that the conference is aimed to "stimulate debate among scientists" and that it is particularly geared to university students. "Being young, they have less built-in resistance to new data that conflicts with establishment dogma," a statement from the organizers explained. "Darwinian evolution has become the accepted paradigm of the scientific community," they noted. "New research data that challenges that paradigm is automatically rejected for philosophical rather than scientific reasons.
"Results of recent empirical research published by scientific academies refutes the basic principles of the geological time-scale. It reduces the age of rocks and therefore the fossils in them. The theory of evolution is undergirded by both the time-scale and the age of fossils.
"This evidence from sedimentology harmonizes with the latest findings in genetics, paleontology, physics, and other scientific disciplines. The implications of this research are fatal for Darwinism."Not availableAccording to Russian sedimentologist Alexander Lalamov, "Everything contained in Darwin’s 'Origin of Species' depends upon rocks forming slowly over enormous periods of time. The November conference demonstrates with empirical data that such geological time is not available for evolution."Recently returned from a geological conference in Kazan, sedimentologist Guy Berthault will present the findings of several sedimentological studies conducted and published in Russia. In one of these, the age of the rock formation surveyed was found to be 0.01% of the age attributed to it by the geological time-scale -- instead of an age of 10,000,000 years, the actual age was no more than 10,000 years. "Contrary to conventional wisdom," Lalamov observed, "these rocks formed quickly, and the fossils they contain must be relatively young. This finding contradicts the evolutionary interpretation of the fossil record."According to U.S. biophysicist Dean Kenyon, "Biological macroevolution collapses without the twin pillars of the geological time-scale and the fossil record as currently interpreted. Few scientists would contest this statement. This is why the upcoming conference concentrates on geology and paleontology. Recent research in these two disciplines adds powerful support to the already formidable case against teaching Darwinian macroevolution as if it were proven fact.""The Scientific Impossibility of Evolution" conference is being held in direct response to Benedict XVI's request that both sides of the evolution controversy be heard. Thomas Seiler, a participant in the conference, said: "In the light of astounding new scientific breakthroughs, particularly in geology, we hope the worldwide scientific community will acknowledge the overwhelming evidence against the theory of evolution."--- --- --- Abstracts of the presentations: http://sites.google.com/site/scientificcritiqueofevolution/
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2009, 02:15:PM » |
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I recently watched Ben Stein's Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed. I'm scientifically illiterate so much of the evidence against evolution went over my head, but it was interesting to see the Intelligent Designers presented in a flattering light for a change.
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2009, 04:35:AM » |
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I recently watched Ben Stein's Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed. I'm scientifically illiterate so much of the evidence against evolution went over my head, but it was interesting to see the Intelligent Designers presented in a flattering light for a change.
Same how I feel --- lot of the counter-evolution arguments I don't quite appreciate due to my scientific illiteracy. It's certainly interesting though, and I'd be very interested in our atheistic scientists attempt to react to this conference. I predict this conference unfortunately will be ignored as the whining of the loonies. Which is funny if the loony counter-evolution arguments are so easy to demonstrate to be erroneous, then why not just do it? Ultimately I do think a large part of the issue comes down to the interpretation of evidence; whenever this is done, there are underlying philosophical assumptions which underpin how you interpret. |
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Saint Thomas Aquinas' simple yet profound advice concerning sanctity (said to his sister): "Will it"
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2009, 10:59:PM » |
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This topic should be shifted to philosophy.
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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2009, 12:21:AM » |
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Same how I feel --- lot of the counter-evolution arguments I don't quite appreciate due to my scientific illiteracy. It's certainly interesting though, and I'd be very interested in our atheistic scientists attempt to react to this conference. I predict this conference unfortunately will be ignored as the whining of the loonies. Which is funny if the loony counter-evolution arguments are so easy to demonstrate to be erroneous, then why not just do it? Ultimately I do think a large part of the issue comes down to the interpretation of evidence; whenever this is done, there are underlying philosophical assumptions which underpin how you interpret.
makes perfect sense to me. |
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