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PeteC
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« on: October 28, 2009, 04:51:PM » |
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I was thinking about different liturgical books and putting some back into print/online and would like some suggestions (obscurity is not so much an issue). Some of the things I thought about were:
The approved Collectio Rituum's for various English-speaking countries as it stood in 1962.
Appendixes to the Roman Ritual for various countries as it stood in 1961
The expanded Little Offices
The Octavarium Romanum (only I feel this wouldn't be so useful except for those who pray the earlier Office ex devotione, or sede groups -- since the 1961 breviary has done away with Octaves for almost all feasts)
As I said, ideally I would like to start with titles that might be rare/hard to find, but would be more useful currently. So for example, materials from religious orders would not be as useful as say something for the Latin rite in general.
Any other suggestions? I'm debating over the usefulness of national Propers for the beviary and the missal - one particularly difficult thing there is that seems to be no uniformity. I checked two altar missals (one by Pustet, the other by Benzinger) both 1963 and they listed different feasts for the USA.
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2009, 05:43:AM » |
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Although you excluded the material from religious orders I believe there is a real need for the Benedictine Matins. It seems to be the oldest unchanged form of the officium, the changes involved the calendar only, the structure until 1970 was still the one as in time of St Benedict. Diurnal is easily available, but the Matins are not. I was thinking about different liturgical books and putting some back into print/online and would like some suggestions (obscurity is not so much an issue). Some of the things I thought about were:
The approved Collectio Rituum's for various English-speaking countries as it stood in 1962.
Appendixes to the Roman Ritual for various countries as it stood in 1961
The expanded Little Offices
The Octavarium Romanum (only I feel this wouldn't be so useful except for those who pray the earlier Office ex devotione, or sede groups -- since the 1961 breviary has done away with Octaves for almost all feasts)
As I said, ideally I would like to start with titles that might be rare/hard to find, but would be more useful currently. So for example, materials from religious orders would not be as useful as say something for the Latin rite in general.
Any other suggestions? I'm debating over the usefulness of national Propers for the beviary and the missal - one particularly difficult thing there is that seems to be no uniformity. I checked two altar missals (one by Pustet, the other by Benzinger) both 1963 and they listed different feasts for the USA.
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2009, 06:38:AM » |
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2009, 08:56:AM » |
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I was thinking about different liturgical books and putting some back into print/online . . . PeteC: I have been mulling over the same kind of venture recently, though my thoughts have revolved more around items for the laity such as a Book of Hours, an "expanded" version of the Officium Parvum BMV, the Officium Defunctorum and related prayers for the dead/penitential prayers, a prayerbook for the liturgical year (the liturgical prayers for each day of the year along with novenas/litanies arranged calendrically), and so forth. Check your PM for a little more information. |
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2009, 10:07:AM » |
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I was thinking about different liturgical books and putting some back into print/online and would like some suggestions (obscurity is not so much an issue). Some of the things I thought about were:
The approved Collectio Rituum's for various English-speaking countries as it stood in 1962.
Appendixes to the Roman Ritual for various countries as it stood in 1961
The expanded Little Offices
The Octavarium Romanum (only I feel this wouldn't be so useful except for those who pray the earlier Office ex devotione, or sede groups -- since the 1961 breviary has done away with Octaves for almost all feasts)
As I said, ideally I would like to start with titles that might be rare/hard to find, but would be more useful currently. So for example, materials from religious orders would not be as useful as say something for the Latin rite in general.
Any other suggestions? I'm debating over the usefulness of national Propers for the beviary and the missal - one particularly difficult thing there is that seems to be no uniformity. I checked two altar missals (one by Pustet, the other by Benzinger) both 1963 and they listed different feasts for the USA.
If anyone is thinking about reprinting any of these I would be glad to offer advice/tips on the whole process. I'm no expert, but I do have some experience in scanning and Print on Demand. ask@churchlatin.com |
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2009, 01:54:PM » |
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I am a great fan of print-on-demand.
However, I am not sure if I would advocate scanning. One of the biggest faults of the currently available Libers is that they have been poorly reproduced, something scanning only worsens, despite planned safeguards. What I would instead advocate - although it would be a torturous labour - is completely retypesetting these books.
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2009, 08:20:PM » |
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I am a great fan of print-on-demand.
However, I am not sure if I would advocate scanning. One of the biggest faults of the currently available Libers is that they have been poorly reproduced, something scanning only worsens, despite planned safeguards. What I would instead advocate - although it would be a torturous labour - is completely retypesetting these books.
Yes, print on demand has many advantages which normally outweigh some significant disadvantages. (depending on the type of book being reprinted) Proper scanning should produce an exact reproduction of what was there to begin with. In some cases, the scans can be enhanced to provide a better than original end result. I understand the issue with the Libers. The scans could still be repaired and enhanced if the proper techniques were used. One would have to discern the amount of labor need to ret-ypeset the whole book or repair the scans. The other issue with re-typesetting is errors. Errors are bound to creep in. Scanning totally eliminates this variable. Now if the original had many errors to begin with, re-typesetting may be the way to go. The main issue is the hours and hours of labor it takes to either repair scans or retypeset a book. This is what has impeded me from reprinting as many books as I have wanted to. I literally have stacks of books that I have had donated or have purchased for sole purpose of reprinting them. So many books to reprint, so little time... |
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2009, 11:44:PM » |
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If we can collaborate, then that would reduce labour and duplication.
I have some plans re retypesetting/print on demand. Can you PM me to remind me to discuss them with you?
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2009, 07:54:PM » |
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I just bought the Roman Missal 1962 aka THE DAILY MISSAL AND LITURGICAL MANUAL WITH VESPERS FOR SUNDAYS AND FEASTS FROM THE EDITIO TYPICA OF THE ROMAN MISSAL AND BREVIARY<1962 Summorum Pontificum EDITION from BARONIUS PRESS LONDON MMVIII.
Would this be a useful Liturgical book? The salesman said his only sold 5. While I can'r seem to find the Rite of Exorcism in it it does seem to have alot of information.
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2009, 08:07:PM » |
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I just bought the Roman Missal 1962 aka THE DAILY MISSAL AND LITURGICAL MANUAL WITH VESPERS FOR SUNDAYS AND FEASTS FROM THE EDITIO TYPICA OF THE ROMAN MISSAL AND BREVIARY<1962 Summorum Pontificum EDITION from BARONIUS PRESS LONDON MMVIII.
Would this be a useful Liturgical book? The salesman said his only sold 5. While I can'r seem to find the Rite of Exorcism in it it does seem to have alot of information.
Absolutely this is a useful Liturgical book. If you attend the TLM this book will be a contstant companion. If this is the first time you have ever picked up a hand missal some explanation of how to use it is in order. They can be a bit intimidating at first, but once you get the feel of it and understand the different sections and how they all work together, it will be a treasure for you to use. I think there may be a thread or two on this forum explaining how to use a hand missal. Can anybody point this member to the thread(s)? |
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2009, 09:12:PM » |
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2009, 12:20:PM » |
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Does anyone have a copy of the Octavarium Romanum? It seems to be rather rare, especially any recent editions.
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PeteC
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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2009, 12:57:PM » |
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Does anyone have a copy of the Octavarium Romanum? It seems to be rather rare, especially any recent editions.
I do. Let me know if you'd like a particular lection. I can't promise immediacy, but I will get it to you sooner or later..... |
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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2009, 01:05:PM » |
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Does anyone have a copy of the Octavarium Romanum? It seems to be rather rare, especially any recent editions.
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