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« Reply #60 on: November 06, 2009, 04:17:PM » |
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devotedknuckles
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« Reply #61 on: November 06, 2009, 04:29:PM » |
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« Reply #62 on: November 06, 2009, 04:31:PM » |
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No one has accused ME of not being Catholic, despite the fact that I have reservations about the SSPX. The reason I have not been to one of their chapels is precisely that.
But the difference between myself and others is that I don't flaunt the opinion that the SSPX is a pack of rebel Protestants. Anyone who does that is asking for it. They better just expect the worst.
The SSPX is a pack of rebel Protestants And I LOVE IT! |
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« Reply #63 on: November 06, 2009, 05:33:PM » |
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No one has accused ME of not being Catholic, despite the fact that I have reservations about the SSPX. The reason I have not been to one of their chapels is precisely that.
But the difference between myself and others is that I don't flaunt the opinion that the SSPX is a pack of rebel Protestants. Anyone who does that is asking for it. They better just expect the worst.
The SSPX is a pack of rebel Protestants You are unbelievable. Do you actually know anyone who thinks John Calvin is a saint? I do. Trust me, the SSPX ain't no Protestants. Lefebvre was no Calvin. You are not able to recognize distinctions. You might as well put your foot in your mouth. |
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Scipio_a
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« Reply #64 on: November 06, 2009, 09:02:PM » |
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No one has accused ME of not being Catholic, despite the fact that I have reservations about the SSPX. The reason I have not been to one of their chapels is precisely that.
But the difference between myself and others is that I don't flaunt the opinion that the SSPX is a pack of rebel Protestants. Anyone who does that is asking for it. They better just expect the worst.
The SSPX is a pack of rebel ProtestantsAnd I LOVE IT! It's too bad this guy is too stupid or too malevolent to have meant that as a funny smack because I'm laughing out loud. Oh well... |
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« Reply #65 on: November 06, 2009, 09:43:PM » |
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No one has accused ME of not being Catholic, despite the fact that I have reservations about the SSPX. The reason I have not been to one of their chapels is precisely that.
But the difference between myself and others is that I don't flaunt the opinion that the SSPX is a pack of rebel Protestants. Anyone who does that is asking for it. They better just expect the worst.
The SSPX is a pack of rebel ProtestantsAnd I LOVE IT! It's too bad this guy is too stupid or too malevolent to have meant that as a funny smack because I'm laughing out loud. Oh well... I know eh? LOL its so far from what we are....Im amused to say the least! |
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« Reply #66 on: November 06, 2009, 09:59:PM » |
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No one has accused ME of not being Catholic, despite the fact that I have reservations about the SSPX. The reason I have not been to one of their chapels is precisely that.
But the difference between myself and others is that I don't flaunt the opinion that the SSPX is a pack of rebel Protestants. Anyone who does that is asking for it. They better just expect the worst.
The SSPX is a pack of rebel ProtestantsAnd I LOVE IT! He's the kind of guy that would have been defending the arian heresy against those that were then in a "non perfect status" because then even the Pope was a heretic. He should walk into a baptist Church and then a SSPX one and then say which is Catholic and no obediance doesnt matter here the SSPX did what had to be done in face of heretical Rome God Bless em. It's too bad this guy is too stupid or too malevolent to have meant that as a funny smack because I'm laughing out loud. Oh well... I know eh? LOL its so far from what we are....Im amused to say the least! I am amused to but this troll is really pissing me off. |
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ImpyTerwilliger
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« Reply #67 on: November 07, 2009, 12:52:PM » |
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I think that one can be a traditional Catholic and yet disagree with the actions or with some of the principles of the Society of St. Pius X. As they say in the Society, "We are not the Church."
However, I have decided that I cannot in good conscience fail to give the Society my active support. It is clear to me that Our Lord is using the Society to prevent a total catastrophe in the Church.
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« Reply #68 on: November 07, 2009, 04:52:PM » |
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No one has accused ME of not being Catholic, despite the fact that I have reservations about the SSPX. The reason I have not been to one of their chapels is precisely that.
But the difference between myself and others is that I don't flaunt the opinion that the SSPX is a pack of rebel Protestants. Anyone who does that is asking for it. They better just expect the worst.
The SSPX is a pack of rebel Protestants  The only reason you have the Latin Mass today is because of these "Protestants". By the way do you know what a Protestant is? It would seem to me that if your defining them as protestant you think that those who stay true to the real Catholic Churches teachings are protestants. |
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devotedknuckles
Of course this land is dangerous! All of the animals Are capably murderous
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« Reply #69 on: November 07, 2009, 05:02:PM » |
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Oh pissiltron knows
He is after all a rebel protestant. he wass a prod who claims to have convirted so that would make him what?
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Scipio_a
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« Reply #70 on: November 07, 2009, 10:34:PM » |
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Your response here demonstrates that you are simply unable to grasp the issues at hand.
1 - There is no question that nobody gets to bishop level unless they can think properly.
2 - What I wrote is not even that difficult. In fact it is plain speaking.
3 - But I have no doubt that most of the bishops understand these issues far more comprehensively and deeply than do
4 - Its shameful to think that people with grade school intellect puff themselves up to the point they think they can judge bishops and label them with derogatory terms.
Actually...it is you again who demonstrate an inability to understand and this one quote of yours shows YOU to be the weak intellect you decry...really you should be more careful.... 1 - patently false...as demonstrated by a number of modernist bishyps like Kasper, and Mahoney 2 - Not difficult because it is just wrong...as demonstrated here in MANY previous threads 3 - This is the WORST condemnation of NO bishyps I have ever seen...I ALWAYS temper my like condemnation by suggesting that they could just be stupid as opposed to evil! 4 - Is this about you then and your condemnation of ABL I suppose? If you look at the context of Vatican I it was a major defence of the sovereign rights of the papal states. Therefore if you are a catholic nation with a catholic government then you are within your rights to favour and protect catholic schools, churches, values and observances. But was V1 suggesting that muslims and other strangers living in those lands should be dragged by the hair into catholic churches, or that stormtroopers should bash down their doors and arrest them as they pray before their private shrines. Of course not. That would be an insult to the dignity of free will of the individual.
V1 is not just about Catholic States but the the principles apply the the IDEA of a state...that is, in essence, it applies to all states NOtards love to bring up the false notion that follows about stormtrooping and forcing people to attend Mass...never meant that and nobody of any serious disposition ever took it that way Pelton...you have a lot of rereading to do (if rereading it truly is)...and drop the Peter Vere...he is a fool and leads fools to the fool's paradise. |
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"I ain't no freakin' monument to justice!" -Moonstruck Send your Rosary totals and sacrifice totals to: Rosary Crusade Regina Coeli House 11485 N. Farley Road Platte City, MO 64079 Spread sheet for the 3rd Rosary Crusade: http://sspx.org/fatima_rosary_crusade_tally_form.pdf |
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« Reply #71 on: November 07, 2009, 10:52:PM » |
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No one has accused ME of not being Catholic, despite the fact that I have reservations about the SSPX. The reason I have not been to one of their chapels is precisely that.
But the difference between myself and others is that I don't flaunt the opinion that the SSPX is a pack of rebel Protestants. Anyone who does that is asking for it. They better just expect the worst.
The SSPX is a pack of rebel Protestants The only reason you have the Latin Mass today is because of these "Protestants". By the way do you know what a Protestant is? It would seem to me that if your defining them as protestant you think that those who stay true to the real Catholic Churches teachings are protestants. To accuse the SSPX of being 'rebel Protestants' is ridiculous, ahistorical and illogical. To accuse them of rebellion might be technically accurate, but the Church has avoided using such harsh language I think, preferring to call them 'disobedient' since 'rebellion' connotes certain things that are not true (i.e. that a group is trying to overthrow the leadership, etc.). Remember that according the Church, the SSPX has valid Holy Orders and it is all right for a Catholic to attend an SSPX Mass and it will fulfill the Sunday obligation as long as the intention of said individual is not schismatic. The excommunications against the SSPX leaders were rescinded, although the SSPX has no Canonical standing and its Bishops and Priest, although validly ordained, lack faculties and ordinary jurisdiction. My understanding is that, according the Church, the SSPX is not schismatic or heretical, only disobedient (still bad) and Canonically unrecognized (also bad for them). |
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« Reply #72 on: November 07, 2009, 11:26:PM » |
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No one has accused ME of not being Catholic, despite the fact that I have reservations about the SSPX. The reason I have not been to one of their chapels is precisely that.
But the difference between myself and others is that I don't flaunt the opinion that the SSPX is a pack of rebel Protestants. Anyone who does that is asking for it. They better just expect the worst.
The SSPX is a pack of rebel Protestants The only reason you have the Latin Mass today is because of these "Protestants". By the way do you know what a Protestant is? It would seem to me that if your defining them as protestant you think that those who stay true to the real Catholic Churches teachings are protestants. To accuse the SSPX of being 'rebel Protestants' is ridiculous, ahistorical and illogical. To accuse them of rebellion might be technically accurate, but the Church has avoided using such harsh language I think, preferring to call them 'disobedient' since 'rebellion' connotes certain things that are not true (i.e. that a group is trying to overthrow the leadership, etc.). Remember that according the Church, the SSPX has valid Holy Orders and it is all right for a Catholic to attend an SSPX Mass and it will fulfill the Sunday obligation as long as the intention of said individual is not schismatic. The excommunications against the SSPX leaders were rescinded, although the SSPX has no Canonical standing and its Bishops and Priest, although validly ordained, lack faculties and ordinary jurisdiction. My understanding is that, according the Church, the SSPX is not schismatic or heretical, only disobedient (still bad) and Canonically unrecognized (also bad for them). Well thats technicaly correct. What ever happened to the old Nsper who loved to knock the SSPX mercilessly? |
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« Reply #73 on: November 07, 2009, 11:34:PM » |
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Wow! I can't believe the ugliness and disrespect on this forum!  I am new here and I was looking for understanding of the SSPX position clearly because I have friends that attend SSPX. I have seen them cut out of their homeschool group and family turn against them. I don't necessarily agree with them since there is a TLM right here in town, but I would never quit our friendship. I have also seen extremely unfriendly and uncharitable people at the approved TLM in our diocese. It is fights like this that turn my husband off on traditional catholicism as opposed to the NO that he is used to. Please let's use some charity and kindness in debating these positions! |
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« Reply #74 on: November 07, 2009, 11:59:PM » |
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No one has accused ME of not being Catholic, despite the fact that I have reservations about the SSPX. The reason I have not been to one of their chapels is precisely that.
But the difference between myself and others is that I don't flaunt the opinion that the SSPX is a pack of rebel Protestants. Anyone who does that is asking for it. They better just expect the worst.
The SSPX is a pack of rebel Protestants The only reason you have the Latin Mass today is because of these "Protestants". By the way do you know what a Protestant is? It would seem to me that if your defining them as protestant you think that those who stay true to the real Catholic Churches teachings are protestants. To accuse the SSPX of being 'rebel Protestants' is ridiculous, ahistorical and illogical. To accuse them of rebellion might be technically accurate, but the Church has avoided using such harsh language I think, preferring to call them 'disobedient' since 'rebellion' connotes certain things that are not true (i.e. that a group is trying to overthrow the leadership, etc.). Would you lighten up already. Can't you tell that what I said was tongue in cheek for the sake of humour. Some people got it fortunately. I do not believe that the SSPX as an organisation is a rebel protestant organisation in the sense which we are used to it from the reformation however I do believe that there are large numbers of its members which have a rebellious schismatic mentality which needs to be avoided. And sorry but they are protestors. They are protesting the modernism in the church and the council. And they are rebel to the extent that they set up bishops and a hierarchy in direct opposition to the established church. So although what I said was in jest, there is a disturbing element of truth in it. The rebel protestant tendancies in the SSPX if left unchecked could quite easily blow over into a papal bull burning open schism. Let's pray that nothing like that happens. |
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Here are the words of Cardinal Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict XVI) regarding the New Mass:
The liturgical reform, in its concrete realization, has distanced itself even more from its origin. The result has not been a reanimation, but devastation. In place of the liturgy, fruit of a continual development, they have placed a fabricated liturgy. They have deserted a vital process of growth and becoming in order to substitute a fabrication.They did not want to continue the development, the organic maturing of something living through the centuries, and they replaced it, in the manner of technical production, by a fabrication, a banal product of the moment.
(Revue Theologisches, Vol. 20, Feb. 1990, pgs. 103-104)
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