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Author Topic: Hindu Sacrifice of 250,000 animals begin  (Read 560 times)
AntoniusMaximus

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« on: November 25, 2009, 10:06:AM »

I must say, if this was in the US South this would be awesome, the world's largest barbeque.  Though the final quote is quite troubling I find, the "goddess needs blood" line. 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/24/hindu-sacrifice-gadhimai-festival-nepal

The world's biggest animal sacrifice began in Nepal today with the killing of the first of more than 250,000 animals as part of a Hindu festival in the village of Bariyapur, near the border with India.

The event, which happens every five years, began with the decapitation of thousands of buffalo, killed in honour of Gadhimai, a Hindu goddess of power.

With up to a million worshippers on the roads near the festival grounds, this year's fair seems more popular than ever, despite vocal protests from animals rights groups who have called for it to be banned. "It is the traditional way, " explained 45-year old Manoj Shah, a Nepali driver who has been attending the event since he was six, "If we want anything, and we come here with an offering to the goddess, within five years all our dreams will be fulfilled." .

Crowds thronged the roads and camped out in the open, wrapped in blankets against the cool mist. The festivities included a ferris wheel, fortune-telling robots and stalls broadcasting music and offering tea and sugary snacks.

As dawn broke, the fair officially opened with the sacrifice of two rats, two pigeons, a pig, a lamb and a rooster in the main temple, to cheers of "Long live Gadhimai" from spectators pushing against each other for a better view.

In the main event, 250 appointed residents with traditional kukri knives began their task of decapitating more than 10,000 buffalo in a dusty enclosure guarded by high walls and armed police.

Frightened calves galloped around in vain as the men, wearing red bandanas and armbands, pursued them and chopped off their heads. Banned from entering the animal pen, hundreds of visitors scrambled up the three-metre walls to catch a glimpse of the carnage.

The dead beasts will be sold to companies who will profit from the sale of the meat, bones and hide. Organisers will funnel the proceeds into development of the area, including the temple upkeep.

On the eve of the event, protesters made a final plea to organisers by cracking open coconuts in a nearby temple as a symbolic sacrifice. "It is cruel and inhumane. We've always been a superstitious country, but I don't think sacrifice has to be part of the Hindu religion," said the protest organiser, Pramada Shah.

The campaign has the support of the French actor Brigitte Bardot, who has petitioned the Nepalese prime minister, Madhav Kumar Nepal, about the issue. But the government, which donated £36,500 to the event, has shown no sign of discontinuing the centuries-old tradition. An attempt by the previous government to cut the budget for animal sacrifice provoked street protests.

Chandan Dev Chaudhary, a Hindu priest, said he was pleased with the festival's high turnout and insisted tradition had to be kept. "The goddess needs blood," he said. "Then that person can make his wishes come true."
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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2009, 10:07:AM »

Mighty barbecue!
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2009, 11:46:AM »

That's really weird...my Hindu friend refuses to kill even a bee that is stinging him! Must be a different stripe of Hindu there...
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2009, 01:15:PM »

Crazy theology.
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2009, 02:12:PM »

That's really weird...my Hindu friend refuses to kill even a bee that is stinging him! Must be a different stripe of Hindu there...

Hinduism is extremely diverse; it's not even really a religion, more of a conglomeration of religions that can be traced back (some more than others) to the Vedas.  Heck some Hindus consider Buddhists a sort of Hindu.

You have primitive idolatrous religions in the lower castes, then Brahminism, which is incredibly varied, then a gazillion mystic guru schools that follow orthodox Brahminism in various degrees, etc.
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2009, 03:36:PM »

That's really weird...my Hindu friend refuses to kill even a bee that is stinging him! Must be a different stripe of Hindu there...

Nepalese Hinduism is a syncretism of folk traditions, the worst elements of which have been energized and strengthened with "left-hand" Shaktic practices, and Buddhism. The Hinduism of the "mainstream" emphasizes ahimsa (noninjury); the sole exception being the occasional goat sacrificed to Kali in parts of Bengal, a practice sanctioned in the Puranas. 
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2009, 04:57:PM »

Npt to mention the goat piss drinkin fetish of there's.
Anyhoo
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2009, 06:48:PM »

Heck some Hindus consider Buddhists a sort of Hindu.

Many Vaishnavas revere Buddha as a compassionate avatar of Vishnu (the god's 24th, according to the Srimad Bhagavatam), whose rejection of the Vedas served to indirectly eliminate the animal sacrifices prescribed therein.  Not all Hindus view Buddha this positively. lol.
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laid on lightly, with terror--as if
one were holding a dandelion back
into the sun.


~ A.R. Ammons

"When I depart from the city, and stretch out my hands, the sounds will cease." Exodus 9:29
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2009, 08:38:PM »

U sound
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Like a trad guru. Wonder how big beard is.
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2009, 09:07:PM »

I wonder if they would mind if a few of us took a few of those carcasses, and started a nice banquet? 

It would be fun, methinks.
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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2009, 10:10:PM »

I always enjoy reading about these sorts of things from a variety of different news sources.  For instance, The Hindu estimates 3 to 5 hundred thousand animals will be sacrificed, and reports that about 80% of the people who attend the festival will travel from India.   

http://beta.thehindu.com/news/international/article53883.ece


I first heard about this practice from Hindu friends, and since then I've followed the debate with interest.  If I understand correctly, part of this is a caste issue as well - the lower castes still participate in these types of activities, whereas the upper caste Hindus tend not to.  Marc alluded to that a bit.

Most of the Hindus I have known tend to agree with this line of argument:

http://www.hindu-blog.com/2009/04/thoughts-on-bali-or-animal-sacrifice-in.html

Another similar view from a mainstream Indian newspaper:

http://www.hindu.com/op/2003/09/16/stories/2003091600290300.htm

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« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2009, 11:12:PM »

U sound
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Like a trad guru. Wonder how big beard is.

Make that a clean-shaven trad guru.
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2009, 02:56:PM »

St. Francis Xavier, pray for us.

Pray for the missions in India. Those people need the light of Christ.
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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2009, 10:05:PM »

it is truly a dark and ominous religion. may the intercession of St Francis Xavier obtain the loosening of the bonds of these poor slaves of sin. May their hearts be converted to the True and Living Faith, and may they attain salvation and everlasting life in Eternity as well as liberation from the snares of paganism on Earth.
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