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Author Topic: St. Anne's Church in San Diego adds 4th TLM on Sunday  (Read 616 times)
Petrus1962

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« on: November 03, 2009, 10:18:AM »

One year after its official designation as a personal parish for the Latin Mass, St. Anne’s Church in San Diego has responded to increased attendance by adding a fourth Sunday Mass. Catholics in San Diego may now attend a Low Mass at 6:00 PM, in addition to Low Masses at 7:30 AM and 12:00 PM and a High Mass at 10:00 AM. The parish is served by Fr. Carl Gismondi, FSSP, Pastor, and Fr. Federico Masutti, FSSP, Associate Pastor. For more information, http://www.stannes-sandiego.org/
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2009, 10:21:AM »

One year after its official designation as a personal parish for the Latin Mass, St. Anne’s Church in San Diego has responded to increased attendance by adding a fourth Sunday Mass. Catholics in San Diego may now attend a Low Mass at 6:00 PM, in addition to Low Masses at 7:30 AM and 12:00 PM and a High Mass at 10:00 AM. The parish is served by Fr. Carl Gismondi, FSSP, Pastor, and Fr. Federico Masutti, FSSP, Associate Pastor. For more information, http://www.stannes-sandiego.org/


Always glad to hear when the Latin Mass takes a foothold.  But what the heck is a "personal parish"?
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2009, 10:24:AM »

One year after its official designation as a personal parish for the Latin Mass, St. Anne’s Church in San Diego has responded to increased attendance by adding a fourth Sunday Mass. Catholics in San Diego may now attend a Low Mass at 6:00 PM, in addition to Low Masses at 7:30 AM and 12:00 PM and a High Mass at 10:00 AM. The parish is served by Fr. Carl Gismondi, FSSP, Pastor, and Fr. Federico Masutti, FSSP, Associate Pastor. For more information, http://www.stannes-sandiego.org/


Always glad to hear when the Latin Mass takes a foothold.  But what the heck is a "personal parish"?

It is a parish where you can become a member based on your preference for the rite being celebrated there, rather than a parish based on geographical boundaries.

Great news!  Both of these guys are excellent priests.
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2009, 11:15:AM »

What can be done to replicate this at other parishes?
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2009, 11:20:AM »


 But what the heck is a "personal parish"?

Quote from: CIC, 1983
Can. 518 As a general rule, a parish is to be territorial, that is, it is to embrace all Christ's faithful of a given territory. Where it is useful however, personal parishes are to be established, determined by reason of the rite, language or nationality of the faithful of a certain territory, or on some other basis.
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2009, 11:23:AM »

What can be done to replicate this at other parishes?

I think it helps that this parish serves the needs of both English and Spanish speakers.

The FSSP priests I know who are serving Mexican or Mexican-American communities have told me that they get a lot of traction within that demographic.  I think people of Mexican descent already have a strong cultural Catholicism (the devotion to Our Lady of Guadalupe, the attention paid to feast days, regard for ceremony, etc.), so there is a strong base to build on.  If they have the slightest desire for sacred things, then the draw to the Latin Mass, executed beautifully, is a no-brainer.
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2009, 11:25:AM »

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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2009, 12:43:PM »


I think it helps that this parish serves the needs of both English and Spanish speakers.

The FSSP priests I know who are serving Mexican or Mexican-American communities have told me that they get a lot of traction within that demographic.  I think people of Mexican descent already have a strong cultural Catholicism (the devotion to Our Lady of Guadalupe, the attention paid to feast days, regard for ceremony, etc.), so there is a strong base to build on.  If they have the slightest desire for sacred things, then the draw to the Latin Mass, executed beautifully, is a no-brainer.

That's hindered, more than helped, in NW Arkansas.  Instead of the Latin Mass, we get the latino Mass, in order to be more inclusive.
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2009, 02:27:PM »

 Grin This is great to hear! This is where we go when I can convince my hubby.
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2009, 02:53:PM »


I think it helps that this parish serves the needs of both English and Spanish speakers.

The FSSP priests I know who are serving Mexican or Mexican-American communities have told me that they get a lot of traction within that demographic.  I think people of Mexican descent already have a strong cultural Catholicism (the devotion to Our Lady of Guadalupe, the attention paid to feast days, regard for ceremony, etc.), so there is a strong base to build on.  If they have the slightest desire for sacred things, then the draw to the Latin Mass, executed beautifully, is a no-brainer.

That's hindered, more than helped, in NW Arkansas.  Instead of the Latin Mass, we get the latino Mass, in order to be more inclusive.

I think the original poster meant that it helped this traditionalist parish that they attracted both Hispanics and whites.  I'm guessing that what you're talking about is that the *Novus Ordo* people in Arkansas are trying to attract Hispanics by way of Spanish-language Masses.  Those are two different phenomena:  1) traditionalists recruiting Hispanics=more Latin Masses, 2) Novus Ordo folks recruiting Hipanics=more Spanish-language Novus Ordo.  Or am I wrong. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2009, 02:56:PM »

I think you're quite right.  Unfortunately, we don't have any FSSP, nor SSPX here, but it seems like the winds may be changing, even if our bishop doesn't like it.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2009, 03:56:PM »


I think it helps that this parish serves the needs of both English and Spanish speakers.

The FSSP priests I know who are serving Mexican or Mexican-American communities have told me that they get a lot of traction within that demographic.  I think people of Mexican descent already have a strong cultural Catholicism (the devotion to Our Lady of Guadalupe, the attention paid to feast days, regard for ceremony, etc.), so there is a strong base to build on.  If they have the slightest desire for sacred things, then the draw to the Latin Mass, executed beautifully, is a no-brainer.

That's hindered, more than helped, in NW Arkansas.  Instead of the Latin Mass, we get the latino Mass, in order to be more inclusive.

I think the original poster meant that it helped this traditionalist parish that they attracted both Hispanics and whites.  I'm guessing that what you're talking about is that the *Novus Ordo* people in Arkansas are trying to attract Hispanics by way of Spanish-language Masses.  Those are two different phenomena:  1) traditionalists recruiting Hispanics=more Latin Masses, 2) Novus Ordo folks recruiting Hipanics=more Spanish-language Novus Ordo.  Or am I wrong. 

Bonifacius,

You read me right.  Fr. Masutti (one of the priests at the San Diego parish mentioned) is a Spanish speaker, so he can preach in Spanish or English.  There are several others like him in the FSSP, and they've had great success in drawing Spanish-speakers to the EF Mass, even in areas where there was no prior demand for the EF Mass among Spanish-speakers.

When it comes to the EF Mass, I don't see how there could be a "latino" Mass, as the Mass remains the same everywhere, being said only in Latin.
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2009, 05:10:PM »

When it comes to the EF Mass, I don't see how there could be a "latino" Mass, as the Mass remains the same everywhere, being said only in Latin.

I think this was supposed to be a humorous post, as in a Spanish-language NO Mass, not a Spanish-language EF Mass.
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2009, 05:20:PM »

When it comes to the EF Mass, I don't see how there could be a "latino" Mass, as the Mass remains the same everywhere, being said only in Latin.

I think this was supposed to be a humorous post, as in a Spanish-language NO Mass, ...

With mariachi bands, eh? Laughing BTDT!
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2009, 05:41:PM »

This is actually my parish. And yeah the decision was made due to the growth of the TLM at the Church.

Love going to Mass its the best.

I think there are a lot more people out there whose needs are not being met however unfortunately our bishop though he has not stood in the way of the TLM he has not helped it either. I am mixed on my view towards Bishop Brom he is not bad but he is not great either I guess lukewarm would be the best way to categorize him.

May be is just one of those guys caught in the middle, you know, doesn't really know what to do about the return to the Tradition but just knows it is not for him. Yet at the same time he doesn't want to step on anybodies shoes and promote it one way or the other. I guess he is doing his best to stay out the way, not really what I want from a Bishop.
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