Veiling Question/Idea

[jtulcu]

I think the issue of not veiling also has a little to do with the priests. Im a NO baby, and before I discovered the TLM, I had come across the passage of covering your head in Scripture, and I remembered all the movies where Catholics always had their head covered. This bothered me, and I went to my priests and asked him, " why do we not cover our head anymore". He said that the tradition was outdated and really had more to do with fashion, and there really wasn't a need for it anymore.  This explanation always bothered me and I was filled with glee when I attended my first TLM.

[jtulcu]

Oh does anyone know of  a tutorial or pattern  on how to make these,  other than just cut edges?

[Fontevrault]

Dust, I'd never been taught either!  I know my mother used to wear a veil or a hat every week when she was young.  But, by the time I can remember, that practice was no more . . .

jtulcu:  I have a pattern for a snood but not a veil shape.  I imagine you should take out your own, trace the edges onto an old paper grocery bag, and then use that template to cut out the veils (this is what I plan to do).  Then, I figure you hem the edges and you're done unless you want to add scalloped edges or a ribbon binding.  It's a pretty simple thing.  I just love the idea of all of us making veils and brining information to the local NO parishes about them!  I'll edit an on-line pamphlet for distribution and post it here.  I promise I'll make it small! 

What do you guys think about a website offerring veils to those who want/need them?  I know you can buy a scarf at WalMart and it will do the job, but many women think it has to be a veil.  They also won't go on a special shopping trip for something but might put a veil on if they were made available at the back of the church . . .

[Magdalene]

I ordered my veils through http://www.modestyveils.com/  but they did cost some. But one does not have to wear a veil to cover the head; scarves are not difficult to come by, etc.

I do not wear the veil at the NO Mass. Maybe one day I will. I might start by wearing one at adoration...

Today the author of this thread and I do not have to drive 75 miles-Deo Gratias-because the TLM is offered by an FSSP who makes the drive twice a month for us.  Normally I accompany my husband to the NO in the morning and then attend the TLM in the evening. Today I did not attend the NO because I learned beforehand that there is to be a 7 minute power point presentation on a screen set up in front of the tabernacle to show how our community building process is going. Kind of like a town hall meeting I guess. Tens of thousands of dollars were spent to hire an out of state agency to put this all together.  A nice worldly attempt perhaps. But our oneness comes in Christ. Supposedly we are broke and short of money but much money was spent on this.  Have not been willing to foot the bill to advance spiritual opportunities or for more adoration but the money was shelled out for this.  It was mentioned that some folks will not appreciate this in the middle of Holy Mass but since some come late and some leave early, it was determined to present this to a more captive audience. I guess I would have had to walk out. I cannot abide having Mass hijacked like that.  We forget, in the NO, that Mass is the Sacrifice of Christ, and is the worship of God; it is not about the gathering of the assembly.  I am so glad that I learned of this and so will not have to subject myself to it and also that I can attend this day a Mass that will not be hijacked, a Mass of the ages that the Saints attended, a Mass with no innovations or personalizations. A Mass for the glory of God.

[Heinrich]

There isn't one unless I drive to Denver.    But, I sew pretty well and was thinking I could make a whole bunch of chapel veils. If I print some pamphlets on the importance of veiling and take them around to the local NO parishes, maybe, just maybe women will use them.  If a few others get involved, maybe it could change things and bring back a little piece of important reverance for the Blessed Sacrament beyond our TLM parishes.  Sound good?!?!

(Modified: Fixed a typo.)

The ladies of my home are part of the sewing guild at Immaculate Conception(FSSP) in Colorado Springs. You live in Douglas County, right Fontevrault? The Fountain Catholic store in dowtown Springs has veils for 7.00, I think.

[kimbaichan]

At least 90% of the ladies I attend Mass with are over 65. I assume they know about veiling and choose not to do it. I've never asked why b/c even on the internet it's a touchy subject.

[mamalove]

I cut mine like a half circle.  measure from shoulder to shoulder (or where ever you want you veil to hang.  If you want it longer, pick a point on your chest and measure from point to point over your head, like a headband would sit.) cut that edge straight.  then cut the rest in a half circle. I had a halo works catalouge, and used the photos to decide what type of veil I wanted to make, and their pictures of how the veil looked laid out to figure out how to cut my veil.

there are other ways to cut a veil.  you can make a square, which hangs very nicely.  

but if I buy lace, i use the finished scalloped edge for the straight edge, then cut the half circle.  then I use matching lace trim and zig zag it to the edge cut in a half circle.  No need to hem the cut edge, just cover it with the lace trim.  easy as pie.

Or if you use the crepe like fabric, use a salvage for the straight edge, then do a thin rolled hem on the cut circle edge.

FYI, scarves are very Vouge right now.  You can go to TJ MAXX and get the Max for the minimum long rectangle scarf for about 10 bucks.

[lostcat496]

I wore a veil for the first time to a mass 4 weeks ago. (I got it on e-bay for 9 dollars!)

For me the reason I hadn't worn a veil before to the mass was I didn't know that I should and after I did I was terribly worried about how my choice to wear a veil would be received. My worst fears on the second part were realized when I got hijacked by a nun before the second mass I attended with it on. I was told that we are a post-Vatican II church and that she couldn't understand  why I had decided to wear a veil (or take communion on the tongue while kneeling). I gave her a terrified and incoherent answer as I had just had someone come up and grab me by the arm on my blind side drag me off several feet and start talking rather meanly about me and my poor veil. (needless to say I didn't exactly represent the practice very well. I wish I would have been able to speak better on it, but I was stuttering and tripping over my words so badly I wouldn't be terribly shocked if she thought I gave no answer at all.)

In most parishes I really don't think its the money I think a lot are in my position, they don't know and if they do they are afraid how the practice will be received. It's very hard to be the first of anything and in a lot of NO parishes they would be.

[Fontevrault]

Magdalene, I won't be there tonight because I sang in the Gregorian Chant Choir at SEAS this morning and have practice this afternoon.  I think I'm spending quite a lot of my day on this but I thought it would be appropriate.  If I complain about the NO mass, I aught to do what I can to change it.  I don't sing well and have a fear of crowds but if I can help bring Latin back into any mass, I will try and conquer my fear.    In addition, my husband is really stressed about his new job as a professor and needs face-to-face time.  Given that we've already been to mass, I think we'll have a nice dinner and conversation this evening.  With parent-teacher conferences this past week, we've spent precisely 2 nights at home and graded most of the evening.  We need some couple-time.

Heinrich, I'm in Larimer county but the next time I'm in Co Springs, I'll pop by.  I just bought veils for my mother, sister, and I.  I convinced my lapsed Catholic mother and very liberal sister to attend a Latin mass in France this Christmas with me.  I spent about $24 each veil, but I went for something really beautiful in the hopes that they'll wear them.  It's when I looked at the cost of the veils that I thought: I can make this for much cheaper (ok - maybe not as nice as the ones I bought). 

When I first wore a veil an NO parish, I felt like I stuck out.  Today, I sang in the choir, with a veil on my head, and nobody said a word about it.   If women are intimidated and we more traditional Catholics are stuck at NO parishes, perhaps we aught to lead by example.  This isn't meant as criticism; it's just an idea. 

[vinceteipsum]

I wore a veil for the first time to a mass 4 weeks ago. (I got it on e-bay for 9 dollars!)
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In most parishes I really don't think its the money I think a lot are in my position, they don't know and if they do they are afraid how the practice will be received. It's very hard to be the first of anything and in a lot of NO parishes they would be.

Just keep on wearing it, LostCat!
I suppose most parishioners indeed don't know about the origins and purpose of wearing a veil, so they can't be blamed (but they can still be educated). But a nun, who should know better than that, telling you off for wearing a veil...

Maybe you could write out what you would have wanted to say to this nun, including the Scripture reference, learn it by heart, and use it on any following individual trying to hassle you about it.