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Author Topic: english music from the old music  (Read 441 times)
churchesoffortwayne

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« on: November 11, 2009, 01:38:PM »

Greetings, I know it has been some time since I last came here

I am a sales Representative for Nicholas Maria Publishers, featuring the work of Mary Oberle Hubley of Huntington Indiana.
For those of you who don't know of Mary, She is a composer making music for the post Vatican 2 era in the grand tradition of the king of music the pipe organ, as well as part of the Cantus project putting chant into English, and, President of The Midwest Conference on Sacred Music.  She has worked with Father Charles Meter, Cannon Phillips of St John Cantus Chicago, and, has the Praise of Msgr Charles Mangan of Sioux Falls SD.

I come here to help spread the movement of proper church music that uplifts the soul, something that the liberal catholics out there have been less then charitable to me about.  The liberals that have invaded our church are not only unkind to Mary ,and I but, they do everything in their power to prevent our music from reaching the people.

I come here to Fisheaters because I know the people here can appreciate the great music the way it was meant to be.

So would any of you wish to purchase a CD or two, or buy some of the sheet music for use in pro life events and the liturgy?


If you are interested please email me at jetserfer@yahoo.com

Thank you and Pax Vobiscum
Signed,
Jeremy Lung Sales Rep for Nicholas Maria Publishers
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2009, 02:23:PM »

Greetings, I know it has been some time since I last came here

I am a sales Representative for Nicholas Maria Publishers, featuring the work of Mary Oberle Hubley of Huntington Indiana.
For those of you who don't know of Mary, She is a composer making music for the post Vatican 2 era in the grand tradition of the king of music the pipe organ, as well as part of the Cantus project putting chant into English, and, President of The Midwest Conference on Sacred Music.  She has worked with Father Charles Meter, Cannon Phillips of St John Cantus Chicago, and, has the Praise of Msgr Charles Mangan of Sioux Falls SD.

I come here to help spread the movement of proper church music that uplifts the soul, something that the liberal catholics out there have been less then charitable to me about.  The liberals that have invaded our church are not only unkind to Mary ,and I but, they do everything in their power to prevent our music from reaching the people.

I come here to Fisheaters because I know the people here can appreciate the great music the way it was meant to be.

So would any of you wish to purchase a CD or two, or buy some of the sheet music for use in pro life events and the liturgy?


If you are interested please email me at jetserfer@yahoo.com

Thank you and Pax Vobiscum
Signed,
Jeremy Lung Sales Rep for Nicholas Maria Publishers

English is not used in the traditional rites during the liturgy.

Is there a sample available to hear what it sounds like? I never heard chant in English before.
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churchesoffortwayne

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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2009, 03:36:PM »

Yes I know that it is not used in the tridentine rite during the mass itself the exit song sometimes can be though after the mass is over, I know I asked former district head of the FSPS Father George Gabet.  one can in fact hear some of the songs on nicholas maria publishers website.

just type it in to yahoo it will bring up the site.

or
http://www.nicholasmaria.com/gate_of_heaven.html

that has a few, and they are taken from old hymns and chant not all of them are full out chant, but I assure you it is full out organ music she is a professional not just some off hand organist that cant play the full thing. 
He music is full of prayers to the saints and not just general feel good praises to God, her music is powerful and full of emotion and crys out prayer to the saints and Jesus in Heaven.

I tell you the music will not dissappoint you as far as the message and talent go, many conservative priests love her music, and I am sure you will too

Signed Jeremy Lung sales rep for Nicholas Maria Publishers
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2009, 06:15:PM »

Yes I know that it is not used in the tridentine rite during the mass itself the exit song sometimes can be though after the mass is over, I know I asked former district head of the FSPS Father George Gabet.  one can in fact hear some of the songs on nicholas maria publishers website.

just type it in to yahoo it will bring up the site.

or
http://www.nicholasmaria.com/gate_of_heaven.html

that has a few, and they are taken from old hymns and chant not all of them are full out chant, but I assure you it is full out organ music she is a professional not just some off hand organist that cant play the full thing. 
He music is full of prayers to the saints and not just general feel good praises to God, her music is powerful and full of emotion and crys out prayer to the saints and Jesus in Heaven.

I tell you the music will not dissappoint you as far as the message and talent go, many conservative priests love her music, and I am sure you will too

Signed Jeremy Lung sales rep for Nicholas Maria Publishers

I looked at it, and it was interesting, but I didn't much like it though. Perhaps I've been stuck in a NO parish too long with no Latin, but I do not like music in that style.

Having a song directly based on Lumen Gentium is a bit weird I think too.

Perhaps others will like it, I don't know.
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2009, 07:02:PM »

A bit off topic, but Fort Wayne as in Indiana?
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churchesoffortwayne

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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2009, 01:32:AM »

Yes Fort Wayne Indiana, The summit city, the three rivers, the city of churches, a most german town,

I know too that several people on here are from indianapolis and chicago. but yes fort wayne indiana, our latin mass is done by Father Dan Leuw and The Man that was head of the FSSP in the usa for a time, Father George Gabet, one of the kindest priests I know and one of the few younger ones that seem to "get it" as to my love of the Tridentine Mass, and the charism of the old church practices that are also propegated on the website.

sarry for my bad spelling.

I am trying to sell traditional style music for the post vatican 2 era, and the liberals up here fight me tooth and nail, and also the bishop love him for his wisdom but his actions are less then loveing toward the conservatives in our area, though he might say otherwise his actions show how he feels, but at least he spoke up against obama at notre dame, and did not allow the iconoclasts to take away the beauty of the old churches too often under his watch.


signed Jeremy

So wont one of  you please buy some music and help the movement. Pray
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2009, 11:46:AM »

To be perfectly honest...the English ruins it.
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churchesoffortwayne

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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2009, 04:14:PM »

yes but half the english music in our hynmals dont even belong there as they are folk songs and protestent hymns I mean I like amazing grace too but outside of mass as there is a time and place for everything.

so pleaz buy some
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2009, 04:23:PM »

so pleaz buy some

Are you a real Sales Representative?
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churchesoffortwayne

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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2009, 09:57:PM »

I am, don't you see me type that on there under my name. 

I just say please buy some to be short and cute about it like a little kid.

But, seriously its very dramatic and in the old style of the organ written for the post councilliar period.  The composer is president of the midwest conferance on sacred music, and has worked with Cannon Phillips from St John Cantus in Chicago as he is also part of the Cantus project with a few other people. 
She has also worked with Msgr Meter from Illinoise, and Msgr Charles Mangan of Sioux Falls, he is one of the leading pro life priests in America and has worked at the Vatican in Rome if you dont know of him.

All the information about Mary Oberle Hubley is there on her website, that is her playing the organ in the cd music, she is no fly by night musician, she can play the tar out of the pipe organ and make it go through its paces unlike many church organists in many of the smaller churches. 


I came here because i though some of you would have an affinity for classical style music or old style organ music, for use in prolife events, and feast days of the saint, which many of the songs are about.

Signed Jeremy Lung Sales representitive for Nicholas Maria Publishers.
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2009, 02:30:PM »

I am, don't you see me type that on there under my name. 

I just say please buy some to be short and cute about it like a little kid.

But, seriously its very dramatic and in the old style of the organ written for the post councilliar period.  The composer is president of the midwest conferance on sacred music, and has worked with Cannon Phillips from St John Cantus in Chicago as he is also part of the Cantus project with a few other people. 
She has also worked with Msgr Meter from Illinoise, and Msgr Charles Mangan of Sioux Falls, he is one of the leading pro life priests in America and has worked at the Vatican in Rome if you dont know of him.

All the information about Mary Oberle Hubley is there on her website, that is her playing the organ in the cd music, she is no fly by night musician, she can play the tar out of the pipe organ and make it go through its paces unlike many church organists in many of the smaller churches. 


I came here because i though some of you would have an affinity for classical style music or old style organ music, for use in prolife events, and feast days of the saint, which many of the songs are about.

Signed Jeremy Lung Sales representitive for Nicholas Maria Publishers.

I am known as a pedant, but this is something I don't normally do. However, if you truly are a sales representative, you may want to take the time to spell "representative" correctly, especially when used as a title after your name, and most especially when someone asks if you are a sales representative. Misspelling it is very bad in that case.

Secondly, if you are a sales representative, and you are going to post on a forum, try not to write like a spammer or a child. Begging people to buy disks is not a good sales tactic.

Based on your posts here, I would have just reported it as spam and ignored it. I just asked because I was mildly curious. I followed the link because I was surprised to get an answer to my query.

I am not an expert on anything, but I can give a few tips:

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Greetings, I know it has been some time since I last came here

I am a sales Representative for Nicholas Maria Publishers, featuring the work of Mary Oberle Hubley of Huntington Indiana.

For those of you who don't know of Mary, She is a composer making music for the post Vatican 2 era in the grand tradition of the king of music the pipe organ, as well as part of the Cantus project putting chant into English, and, President of The Midwest Conference on Sacred Music. Selling "post Vatican 2" anything on this forum probably won't work. Further more, the bit about putting "chant into English" isn't going to work either. Might as well say you are letting fresh food go bad; it isn't a good tactic. I only asked my question because I was curious. To me, chant in English is for pop music, not sacred music. Listen to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97VvGODk4wY Not only is it better at chant in English, it is entertaining.

She has worked with Father Charles Meter, Cannon Phillips of St John Cantus Chicago, and, has the Praise of Msgr Charles Mangan of Sioux Falls SD.

I come here to help spread the movement of proper church music that uplifts the soul, something that the liberal catholics out there have been less then charitable to me about.  Proper church music isn't in English. This is something we would think the liberal Catholics (whoever they are) would like. It wouldn't surprise me if you say the same thing about traditions to liberals. "something that the radical trad catholics out there have been less than charitable to me about." That, at least, makes sense.

The liberals that have invaded our church are not only unkind to Mary ,and I but, they do everything in their power to prevent our music from reaching the people. See above.

I come here to Fisheaters because I know the people here can appreciate the great music the way it was meant to be. While the music you have may have its place, but it isn't the way great music was meant to be, at least, not in the Church.

So would any of you wish to purchase a CD or two, or buy some of the sheet music for use in pro life events and the liturgy? It goes against the rules to use your music in the liturgy. If you want to sell something, know your target.

If you are interested please email me at jetserfer@yahoo.com

This is common in spam messages. I wouldn't recommend doing this anymore.

Thank you and Pax Vobiscum
Signed, Not necessary and looks like a form response.
Jeremy Lung Sales Rep for Nicholas Maria Publishers
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churchesoffortwayne

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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2009, 12:38:AM »

Yea I know learn how to spell, I am trying to be funny. 

There is no middle ground with people, the post modern catholics they wont even hear me out, and most traditionalists say its not their cup of tea because of the the way the organ is played and because its english. 

 Angry

So, I dont know who to sell to, I figure the people here would appreciate good organ music for church, and pro life events. How does one make a sale if they constantly get the door in the face?
Tell me then who will buy the music or use it?

I know being emotional is unprofessional, but I have to be honest, its not just about the music its about the message in the music, why does no one out there understand that, just because the organ pounds on the cd, does not mean it has to be so fast and loud if its used in church or as a prayer being spoken.

If the music is good enough for someone that worked for the Vatican, Msgr Mangan, then surely someone will see its worth using in their church or catholic events.

signed Jeremy Lung
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2009, 01:01:AM »

Yea I know learn how to spell, I am trying to be funny. 
Next up, grammar. But, ignoring that...

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There is no middle ground with people, the post modern catholics they wont even hear me out, and most traditionalists say its not their cup of tea because of the the way the organ is played and because its english. 
That is what I'd call a "hint". It is mixing two incompatible things. It will appeal to no one. It would be like mixing gansta rap with barbershop quartets. Actually, that can be good, if for comedic value: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPmJWBurnlU

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So, I dont know who to sell to,
Well, you are the sales representative. Not a good situation, this is.

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I figure the people here would appreciate good organ music for church, and pro life events. How does one make a sale if they constantly get the door in the face?
How? By knocking on the right doors.

It isn't good for church, and I don't see how it could be used for pro life events, unless someone carries around an organ.

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Tell me then who will buy the music or use it?
That isn't my job.

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I know being emotional is unprofessional, but I have to be honest, its not just about the music its about the message in the music, why does no one out there understand that, just because the organ pounds on the cd, does not mean it has to be so fast and loud if its used in church or as a prayer being spoken.
Because messages don't sell.

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If the music is good enough for someone that worked for the Vatican, Msgr Mangan, then surely someone will see its worth using in their church or catholic events.
In what context was it "good enough"? Was he asked, did he choose to listen to it, was he being nice, what did he think he was being asked, etc.

I do have a suggestion. If you can't find a buyer, I'd recommend taking the music skill present, and making music that is suitable for church and appealing to a specific group. If you had a cd of good chant music, in Latin, you'd surely get interest. If you had gospel music, or whatever, suitable for people who want English music, you would be able to sell it better.

For my person tastes, if it means anything, this is what I find to be ideal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fMHms5Cvsw

I listen to that all the time, sometimes looped. If something like that were on the cd, I'd be interested in obtaining it.

If I wanted vernacular music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p25DfTCuFw0


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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2009, 10:25:AM »

Ro, whether it was intentional, or not, that was funny. 

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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2009, 11:02:AM »

Ro, whether it was intentional, or not, that was funny. 

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Humour is usually a part of my communication, if only in small word games which no one gets but me.
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