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« on: November 19, 2009, 11:23:AM » |
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I was curious as to what some of my fellow FEs do about Santa Claus. My wife and I just recently celebrated the birth of our first child and are not real sure what to do about this one. We were thinking of kind of making Santa a gift bearer who serves Jesus on Christmas. We got this idea from an old parish priest. Any thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2009, 12:06:PM » |
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I don't have kids, but my thought would be to make it clear that it is just pretend, and that he is based on the real figure of St. Nicholas. Some say you are robbing kids of something magical by not telling them Santa is real, but speaking for myself, I don't think it would have affected anything negatively for me. I think there is still wonder in it, but that is leaves room for understanding what is really real and important about Christmas. And personally, I would feel very uncomfortable telling my children anything that wasn't true, even something like this. I actually do remember feeling very hurt that my parents had told me something that wasn't true when I first found out Santa wasn't real.
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2009, 12:09:PM » |
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2009, 12:18:PM » |
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Yeah, next they will try to say the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy isn't real too! |
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2009, 12:21:PM » |
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Yeah, next they will try to say the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy isn't real too! They lie! They're liars, one and all! |
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2009, 12:28:PM » |
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When my children were young and asked me if Santa Clause was real I told them that the day they stopped believing in Santa is the day that the presents stopped arriving on Christmas.  They and I still believe. |
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2009, 12:29:PM » |
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When my children were young and asked me if Santa Clause was real I told them that the day they stopped believing in Santa is the day that the presents stopped arriving on Christmas. They and I still believe. Proper motivation is the key! + fish! |
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2009, 12:36:PM » |
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I was curious as to what some of my fellow FEs do about Santa Claus. My wife and I just recently celebrated the birth of our first child and are not real sure what to do about this one. We were thinking of kind of making Santa a gift bearer who serves Jesus on Christmas. We got this idea from an old parish priest. Any thoughts?
When I was kid, 'Santa' (Blessed Nicolaus') came in his heavenly birthday on 6th December. Christmas was the birthday of Jesus, and only that. |
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2009, 01:22:PM » |
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In line with cgraye and glgas, we celebrate St. Nicholas on December 6th. The younger kids leave stockings in the window the night before, and we stuff them telling them St. Nic was here. They get candy and other small toys, books or crafts that can fit in their stocking. The teenagers know whats up, but some still try to put up stockings to get some gifts.  On Christmas, we celebrate Our Lord's Birthday and give each other gifts. These traditions I take from my wife's Czech heritage, also putting up Christmas decorations and the tree on Christmas Eve. Alright, I don't now with 7 children, it is impossible. I do it the weekend before Christmas. Plus, I don't go crazy with my decorations. I remember my children went to a Czech St. Nic party at a church one time. I couldn't understand what was being said. What happened and what was translated to me was this. A man dresses up as a devil and comes in on the children gathered and tells them that he knows that they all been bad and get no gifts. Then St. Nic comes in and traps the devil and puts him on a leash, telling him that the kids will be good now with him under control. Then St. Nic sort of gives a sermon to the children on being good and on the Nativity. Then gives out gifts and candy. Now on the secular Claus. When my children see it, I tell them the truth. It is a man dressed up and he is trying to rep St. Nic. I would only tell them it is St. Nic if he was dressed like a bishop. |
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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2009, 02:03:PM » |
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I don't remember ever believing that Santa Claus was real but I might have when I was really little. I knew the presents were from my parents and I never felt cheated that they didn't come from Santa.
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2009, 03:26:PM » |
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There will be no Santa in my house. If any little kid asks me about Santa I'll tell him he was made up by Coca-cola.
Frankly I don't care if I spoil the party.
The reason is this, you have a child believe in Santa, then one day he finds out Santa is not real and its all BS.
So obviously the child will soon figure out the EASter Bunny is not real and the toothfairy is not real.
And you get this
"Oh but Jesus IS real"
"Yeah OK Mom"
Santa Claus as presented is a tool of cultural warfare meant to destroy faith and obfuscate true meaning.
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2009, 04:59:PM » |
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that turned Santa into a "marketable" item.\
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Quite different from the original. |
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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2009, 06:09:PM » |
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I don't have kids, but my thought would be to make it clear that it is just pretend, and that he is based on the real figure of St. Nicholas. Some say you are robbing kids of something magical by not telling them Santa is real, but speaking for myself, I don't think it would have affected anything negatively for me. I think there is still wonder in it, but that is leaves room for understanding what is really real and important about Christmas. And personally, I would feel very uncomfortable telling my children anything that wasn't true, even something like this. I actually do remember feeling very hurt that my parents had told me something that wasn't true when I first found out Santa wasn't real.
This. Though I wasn't exactly hurt when I found out. Really, though, I dont think it would ruin anything to tell them the truth right off. I mean, kids know that they are playing pretend when they dress up as princess and pirates on Halloween, but they still have plenty of fun. |
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2009, 08:58:PM » |
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Perhaps it's paranoid, but I always feared that if I raised a child to believe in Santa Claus and later he had the rug pulled out from under him, he might question whether or not the God I taught him to worship was also a fairy tale. My thinking was to raise the child or children to believe that there is a St. Nicholas, and that the customs we do, though "make-believe," are to honor and celebrate his memory. Would that be robbing him of Christmas?
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