Sinagtala Confraternity Bible?

[mattjolley]

Hi,
Anyone who has this edition of the confraternity bible, whats it like text-size and so forth? Can anyone post a picture??

Matt

[JPY15026]

Had one of these and sold it.Beautiful bible but too bulky to comfortably hold and read.
The text was great but the sheer thick size of it made it so hard to manage.
It is very disproportionate if I can explain it that way .Seemed to be ~5x7 but a good 41/2 thick,that's what made it so hard to handle.
I ended up finding a couple of old "original" ones from the 60's,on ebay

[JPY15026]

Snippets of info I found out from various sources:

The Confraternity translation was done under the auspices of the U.S. bishops and was originally planned as a revision of the Douay-Rheims (except for the Psalms which were to follow Pope Pius XII's new Psalter from the Hebrew).

 The New Testament was published in 1941 after five years of work. However, after Pope Pius XII's encyclical on scripture studies, Divino afflante Spiritu in 1943 encouraged consideration of the original texts, the bishops overhauled the Confraternity project and the Old Testament was translated from scratch from the original Hebrew.

 As OT books were completed, various editions of the Confraternity Bible were published with the Douay translation used for the gradually shrinking remaining portions of the OT that had yet to be translated.

 The Confraternity translations of the Books of Genesis to Ruth were first published in 1952;

Wisdom (or Sapiential) Books, Job to Sirach, in 1955;

 Prophetic Books, Isaiah to Malachi, in 1961.

The remaining books were finished by 1969, but these never appeared under the Confraternity name, they were added to the existing Confraternity OT, Genesis was completely
re- translated, other minor changes were made and a new translation of the New Testament from the Greek was added. The result was the 1970 New American Bible (NAB).

 That is why the hybrid Confraternity version went away.

Comparisons between the NAB and Confraternity OT books are the same (with the exception of Genesis which is a unique translation in the Confraternity editions.

[glgas]

Could you enlighten me?

What is that Confraternity?

[JPY15026]

As stated in above post of mine

The Confraternity translation  was originally planned as a revision of the Douay-Rheims (except for the Psalms which were to follow Pope Pius XII's new Psalter from the Hebrew).
It was done under the auspices of the U.S. bishops.

The New Testament was published in 1941 after five years of work.

Pope Pius XII's encyclical on scripture studies, Divino afflante Spiritu in 1943 encouraged consideration of the original texts, as a result the bishops overhauled the Confraternity project and the Old Testament was translated from scratch from the original Hebrew.

[glgas]

If there is 'Confraternity translation', then there must be some Confraternity (in the time of Pius XII of before). What is that organization? I never heard about such.

As stated in above post of mine

The Confraternity translation  was originally planned as a revision of the Douay-Rheims (except for the Psalms which were to follow Pope Pius XII's new Psalter from the Hebrew).
It was done under the auspices of the U.S. bishops.

The New Testament was published in 1941 after five years of work.

Pope Pius XII's encyclical on scripture studies, Divino afflante Spiritu in 1943 encouraged consideration of the original texts, as a result the bishops overhauled the Confraternity project and the Old Testament was translated from scratch from the original Hebrew.

[timoose]

This might help. I have a St. Joseph Textbook Edition Confraternity Edition. It was printed in 1963 by Catholic Book Publishing Co. N.Y. The imprimatur is from Francis Cardinal Spellman Archbishop of N.Y. and printed under license of the Confraternity of Christian Doctrine  in Washington D.C. I'd bet they are the same Confraternity. Very nice translation too, I like it the best
tim

[JPY15026]

Confraternity of Christian Doctrine

An association established at Rome in 1562 for the purpose of giving religions instruction. Till about the thirteenth century, the Apostles' Creed and Paternoster formed the general basis of religious instruction; all the faithful had to know them by heart, and parish priests were commanded to explain them on Sundays and festivals.

 Then the range of instruction was widened to include the Commandments and sacraments, the virtues and vices. The Synod of Lambeth under Archbishop Peekham, in 1281, was content to order priests to explain the truths of faith four times year, but the Provincial Council of Lavour, in 1368, commanded parish priests to give instruction on all Sundays and feast days.

This council also published a catechism to serve as a textbook for the clergy in giving instructions in Christian doctrine, which was followed in all the dioceses of Languedoc and Gascony. Similar manuals were published elsewhere.

The Council of Trent, seeing how multitudes had fallen from the Faith through ignorance of their religion and recognizing the truth proclaimed by Gerson more than a century before, that church reform must begin with the religious instruction of the young, issued the "Catechismus ad Parochos", and decreed that throughout the Church instructions in Christian doctrine should be given on Sundays and festivals.

But the work of organizing religious instruction had already begun. In 1536 the Abbate Castellino da Castello had inaugurated a system of Sunday schools in Milan. About 1560 a wealthy Milanese nobleman, Marco de Sadis-Cusani, having established himself in Rome, was joined by a number of zealous associates, priests and laymen, pledged to instruct both children and adults in Christian doctrine.

 Pope Pius IV in 1562 made the church of Sant' Apollinare their central institution; but they also gave instructions in schools, in the streets and lanes, and even in private houses.

The association growing, it divided into two sections: the priests formed themselves into a religious congregation, "The Fathers of Christian Doctrine", while the laymen remained in the world as "The Confraternity of Christian Doctrine".

Encouragement from the Holy See was quickly forthcoming. In 1571, Pope St. Pius V, in the Brief "Ex debito pastoralis officii", bore witness to the good already accomplished, and recommended bishops to establish it in every parish. Pope Paul V, by the Brief "Ex credito nobis", in 1607, erected it into an archconfraternity, with St. Peter's, Rome as its head centre. A rescript of the Sacred Congregation of Indulgences, in 1686, urged its establishment wherever possible. From Rome it spread rapidly over Italy, France, and Germany. It found advocates in Cardinal Bellarmine, St. Francis of Sales, and St. Charles Borromeo; who drew up a code of rules and established it in every parish of his diocese.

The First Provincial Council of Westminster urged that its members should be used in both Sunday and day-schools, but while Sunday-schools are plentiful, the confraternity is only sparsely established in England.

Lastly, in 1905 Pope Pius X strictly ordained that "in each and every parish the society commonly called the Confraternity of Christian Doctrine shall be canonically erected"..

Pope Saint Pius X (1903-1914) was one of the most enthusiastic recent Popes in this work, issuing more than twenty pontifical documents to renew and extend the Confraternity of Christian Doctrine. Noteworthy among these was his encyclical letter Acerbo Nimis (April 15, 1905), mandating the C.C.D. in every Catholic parish in the world, and instructing Catholic parents that, if their children attended public schools, they were morally required to make certain that those youngsters systematically attended Catholic religious instructions. Although the C.C.D., as it is theoretically set up, is an elaborate system of catechetical study for all ages and for all Catholic people, in the United States it almost exclusively is used for elementary and high school pupils who are not able to attend Catholic schools.

[AnimaChristi]

I also had one of these and later sold it, so unfortunately I can't post any pictures.  If I remember, the text was large-print, which I found annoying, the Bible itself was "short" but really fat--bulky--making it hard for me to read.  If I were you, I'd try to get a hold of a used Confraternity Bible from the 1960s.  There are many of them floating around in decent condition; I see them all the time at used bookstores and you can probably find one at Amazon or Ebay.  These also usually contain nicer features, such as artwork.