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Catholic view on aliens
« on: March 24, 2011, 03:02:PM »
My husband and I are locked, and he believes in aliens. Our son is currently into outter space stuff. So you can see where this is going. Help.  :fish: That's what I want to do to my husband, give him the fish-eater smackdown. ;D
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Re: Catholic view on aliens
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2011, 04:07:PM »
What do you mean by "locked" dear?

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Re: Catholic view on aliens
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2011, 05:10:PM »
My husband and I are locked, and he believes in aliens. Our son is currently into outter space stuff. So you can see where this is going. Help.  :fish: That's what I want to do to my husband, give him the fish-eater smackdown. ;D

Believes in? Or is accepting of the possibility to a probable extent?

I'd ask "Where is the basis for this belief?". If the answer is not dangerous, then I'd leave it alone. How can one argue with such beliefs? If the answer is dangerous (in violation of known truths revealed), then I'd offer correction and leave it alone. One gets no where by arguing.

Of course, if someone did truly believe in such things, it would be a handy excuse. "Who ate all the cookies?!". "Aliens, they came and left in peace".

If that person believed, and there was no direct evidence to the contrary, how could that not be acceptable?

I don't suggest lying. That is just an example of the psychological effects. People believe in things like this because of curiosity and awe, not because of something meaningful. Even if there are aliens, we have to do the same things anyway and it is a sign of time and comfort for speculation.

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Re: Catholic view on aliens
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2011, 05:11:PM »
What do you mean by "locked" dear?

At a standstill in discussion so third parties are being invited to break the deadlock.


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Re: Catholic view on aliens
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2011, 05:33:PM »
There is a topic on this forum that discusses this issue.

The likely answer is that the 'aliens' are not just figments of imaginations powered by whiskey, but they are not creatures from other bodies in space.  Rather, they are spiritual beings of some kind.  With this in mind, our basic Catholic instruction kicks in and tells us to immediately stop and not attempt any contact.  At all.

Whether or not there can be sentient beings on other planets or moons, that is an interesting question.  On the one hand, I could foresee some obvious theological problems with that.  I know some wonk from the Vatican recently declared a 'welcome' to non Earth creatures, but I personally think that we are far more unique than the Sciencists would have us believe.


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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2011, 05:41:PM »
The likely answer is that the 'aliens' are not just figments of imaginations powered by whiskey, but they are not creatures from other bodies in space.  Rather, they are spiritual beings of some kind.  With this in mind, our basic Catholic instruction kicks in and tells us to immediately stop and not attempt any contact.  At all.
This seems to be a specific response. One could believe that something describable as "life" exists in other places without going into such areas you describe.

The claims about otherworldly events (abductions, strange things, MIB, etc) of course are probably mistakes or deception, or the misattribution of diabolical influence.

Personally, I think it is usually deception and mistakes of erring observers as a whole.

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Whether or not there can be sentient beings on other planets or moons, that is an interesting question.  On the one hand, I could foresee some obvious theological problems with that.  I know some wonk from the Vatican recently declared a 'welcome' to non Earth creatures, but I personally think that we are far more unique than the Sciencists would have us believe.
The main source of belief in aliens is not in evidence or probability, but in the atheist idea that life on earth created itself (somehow), so there is no reason it can't happen elsewhere.

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Re: Catholic view on aliens
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2011, 06:11:PM »
Here's a great, fun and enjoyable lecture available from Charles Coulombe and William Biersach



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Re: Catholic view on aliens
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2011, 06:17:PM »
Aliens are mentioned in the Baltimore Catechism (#2, I believe), as being a possibility.  :tinfoilhat:

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Re: Catholic view on aliens
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2011, 06:35:PM »
Aliens are mentioned in the Baltimore Catechism (#2, I believe), as being a possibility.  :tinfoilhat:

See what I mean about the lameness of the Baltimore Catechism?

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Re: Catholic view on aliens
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2011, 06:40:PM »
Aliens = fallen angels.
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