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Michael Voris and Father Corapi
« on: June 23, 2011, 10:33:AM »
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Re: Michael Voris and Father Corapi
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2011, 10:41:AM »
Uh oh, Mr Shea isn't gonna be too happy...
Forced to leave for refusing to lie - well played.

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Re: Michael Voris and Father Corapi
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2011, 10:43:AM »
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I forsee Voris and Corapi embracing tradition possibly uniting media forces and crossing the Rubicon together......

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Re: Michael Voris and Father Corapi
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2011, 10:53:AM »
Wow, pretty powerful! I'm surprised Voris touched on this!
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Re: Michael Voris and Father Corapi
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2011, 10:55:AM »
Wow, pretty powerful! I'm surprised Voris touched on this!

I'm not.  He's covered the "professional Catholic" media before in a previous Vortex.

Transcript for those who can't watch videos:

Corapi and the Blogs

Hello everyone .. and welcome to the Vortex .. where lies and falsehoods are trapped and exposed .. I’m Michael Voris.

Fr. Corapi and his decisions and recent actions are NOT the topic of this Vortex. What IS the topic is the Catholic Media’s response to his actions.

The sanctimonious and self-righteous condemnation of Fr. John Corapi is frankly disgusting.

And let me be very clear .. this is not a defense or condemnation of his actions.

Frankly .. I don’t know enough about the case to have an opinion. There are lots and lots of unanswered questions.

But again .. his actions and decisions are not the topic here today. The tone of the “professional Catholics” on the internet however is.

And yes .. we said TONE. Faithful orthodox Catholics who are sick of the corruption in the hierarchy . sexual .. financial and political .. are constantly being slammed for the amorphous TONE issue .. as in too much Clarity but not enough Charity.

Well .. if how these professional Catholics have ripped and derided Fr. Corapi is what they mean by charity .. then they need to go back to catechism 101.

I find it singularly interesting that none of them go out of their way to lay out full disclosure .. meaning .. they don’t say repeatedly that they draw their paychecks directly from the establishment Church or live off it on the fringes through broadcasts or writings or being invited onto the public speaking circuit.

They are disingenuous at best to not fess up to that.

Here’s a clear picture. Corapi .. among many things he said in the past .. pointed out the corruption in the Church. He unabashedly talked about the angry homosexual subculture that controls so much of what goes on.

He blasted unfaithful bishops .. meaning not only the obvious ones but also the ones who quietly and cowardly sit back and let heterodoxy and heresy spread unchecked.

It isn’t a stretch of the imagination to conclude many of the enemies he made and noses he got out of joint among the bishops and their lapdog media lackies are glad to see all of this going on.

And now .. the professional Catholics on the internet .. are piling on .. first stating their supposed concern and prayers for Fr. John and then launching into a stream of criticism that they themselves would wither under.

No matter what Fr. Corapi has done .. and no matter how he responded .. it is absolutely certain that there are many who are quietly enjoying this sad case. As far as they are concerned .. one of their opponents is now gone.

And many of those who are quietly happy about it are making their views known through websites with Catholic “celebrities” who have spared no time excoriating Corapi.. demanding he respond as Padre Pio did which is to suffer in silence.

One professional Catholic even went so far as to insist that Corapi adopt the attitude of St. Thomas Aquinas and shut up.

That’s all well and good .. and we should model the saints but it’s the tone they use in saying it. Not to mention the overt hypocrisy.

While they insist that Corapi become an instant model of sanctity .. a good number of these professional Catholic celebrities are among the most back-biting spite filled individuals you will ever encounter in private.

They have no business removing the splinter from Corapi’s eye until they remove not the plank .. but the FOREST from their own.

I don’t know the details of what went on in the curious case of Corapi nor do I fully understand exactly what is going on right now.

What I do know is that the professional Catholics on the internet who have extremely
close ties to the very people who Corapi tore into need to be a bit more upfront about their close ties.

They need to stop slamming Corapi .. enough is enough .. and start turning their invective toward the people destroying the Church form the inside .. and they could have the courage and grace to start with the influential people at whose table they are happy to sit and feather their own nests and fatten their own bellies in the process.

And while they are blasting Fr. Corapi for his approach .. they might recall that Our Blessed Lord saved his most extreme language for the professional crowd of religious hypocrites.

    “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites,
    because you shut the kingdom of heaven against men:
    for you yourselves do not enter in and those that are
    going in, you suffer not to enter. [Mt. 23:13]

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Re: Michael Voris and Father Corapi
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2011, 10:57:AM »
Uh oh, Mr Shea isn't gonna be too happy...

Shea came to my mind first too.  But there's some in this forum that posted in that other thread that need to mow down on some crow themselves.



Yeah alaric Voris and Corapi would make quite the media team.
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Re: Michael Voris and Father Corapi
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2011, 11:36:AM »
Bravo!  Well said Voris.  I for one am kind of glad these pro Catholics have responded in this manner.  This is seperating the wheat from the chaff in my eyes.  I haven't come to a full conclusion on what I think of Fr. Corapi, but for these guys to so easily throw under the bus a priest who had for years faithfully spoke the truth is extremely telling.

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Re: Michael Voris and Father Corapi
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2011, 04:49:PM »
I also know nothing about the Corapi case, but it is really curious what is happening, and I think it is because so much of US Catholicism is affected by the Puritan Protestant culture of the US. Let us suppose the worst-case scenario: let us say Corapi has done wrong. For Catholics from a Catholic culture, it means he has sinned, like I do, and needs confession, like the rest of us. For Protestants, he must be burned at the stake for some personal wrongdoing, because Protestants do not have a sacramental means to eliminate their personal sins: all they can do, ultimately, is burn the sinner to burn out the sin.

On the other hand, we Catholics take heresy, schism, and anything related to the teaching of error or inducing of people away from the Church very very seriously, becasue we believe that the truth is what sets us free, and that Truth is a Person, it is Dogma, and it is Sacramental healing. That is why we attack those who destroy our Church, our liturgy: because our Church is our Mother, our Healing Medicine, our Way of Truth.

So I find the professional Catholic media personalities are just demonstrating the affinities between themselves and their industry and Protestant church ways.
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Re: Michael Voris and Father Corapi
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2011, 06:37:PM »
I forsee Voris and Corapi embracing tradition possibly uniting media forces and crossing the Rubicon together......

Battle lines are being drawn.

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Re: Michael Voris and Father Corapi
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2011, 06:56:PM »
"Suffer in silence like Padre Pio." Father is in good company. They said somebody else should have done the same thing.  ;)
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