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Magdalene
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« on: March 09, 2013, 12:44:PM »

http://vimeo.com/60307695

http://www.taylormarshall.com/2013/03/interview-great-catholic-migration-of.html

Do you desire to grow in your Catholic Faith? Would you like richly biblical homilies? Catechesis that is orthodox and faithful to the living magisterium? Sacred Liturgy that that captures the beauty of holiness and brings due honor to God?

Of course you do! The question is, how do we find this glorious expression of the fullness of Catholicism?

Damian Goddard and I sat down for an interview about The Great Catholic Migration of the 21st Century - a post I recently wrote about the growing grassroots movement in the Catholic Church whereby the lay faithful are gravitating and drifting to parishes, priests, and monasteries where the Catholic Faith and Sacred Liturgy are expressed fully without shame or apologies.

read more at
http://www.taylormarshall.com/2013/01/are-you-part-of-great-catholic.html

What is to be done? My advice is that you should join the Great Catholic Migration of the 21st Century. Most people recognize that there is a de facto division growing within the Catholic Church. It's not popular are "ecclesiastically correct" to talk about this, but it's the elephant in the living room. There are those cardinals, bishops, priests, religious, and laity who are 100% supportive of the Holy Father and Catholic Tradition and then there is another group that is not 100% supportive.

My experience, and the experience of others, confirms that Group B is not sympathetic or helpful to the lay people belonging to Group A. I realize that this is a controversial analysis. I'm avoiding the terms "liberal" and "conservative" so that this comment feed doesn't spin out of control. However, we can all readily identify the theology, liturgical styles, magazines, publications, Catholic schools, politicians, and Catholic universities that belong to Group B. Group B is, no doubt, still the majority in America.

Yet in the last several years, since the beginning of the Pontificate of Pope Benedict XVI, a migration has been occurring. The folks in Group A are growing weary and discouraged. They love Christ, love Mary, love the Pope, love traditional devotions, they love traditional Catholic architecture (not white-washed auditoriums or modern "worship spaces"), they love Gregorian chant, reverence, beauty, and anything else that brings glory and honor to Christ. These people are those that pray and give the most, and they are tired of being beat up. They are now migrating.

Here is what I mean by migration. These Catholics are not physically moving to new geographic areas (though some Catholics do literally move to be part of a wonderful parish). They are realigning their attendance, resources, skills, and money to those parishes, orders, schools, colleges, and other institutions that support and promote traditional Catholic orthodoxy and practice. These Catholics see beyond the slogans, clichés, and gimmicks of Group B's institutional advantage, and they are becoming aware of Catholic leaders and clergy who are spear-heading this great migration.

This migration is made possible through public transportation and the internet. People can now drive to the "good parish" in the diocese. They can now download great homilies at places like audiosancto.org. They can now have fellowship and friendship with like-minded Catholics via the internet. They can refuse to put their money in the local parish collection and instead send it the FSSP, the Norbertines of Orange County, the Canons of St John Cantius, or to a solid orthodox College that promotes the magisterial teachings of the Catholic Church. A large network is currently being extended and strengthened. It's unstoppable.

What we have is a Catholic realignment and people are talking about it every day. It is only a matter of time before more and more people vote with their feet and vote with their pocket books. The dissenting parts of the Church will wither and die. Their influence will shrivel up.

For those that have written to me about their crises of conscience, my advice to you is this: begin the migration. I'll probably catch flack from this, but I have prayed about it and asked Christ to lead me on this question. I'd encourage all of you to do the same. Ask Christ our Lord where He wants you to be.

Is it a form of good stewardship to tithe your money to dissenting priests and parish staffs? Is it a form of good stewardship to submit your children to lame homilies, banal liturgy, and heterodoxy? I've only been given one life to live and Christ will ask me to give an account for each and every moment. I don't want to waste it and I bet that you don't want to waste it either.

Begin migrating to the good and holy priests who offer themselves as living sacrifices...for our spiritual well-being. Support these holy men! Find a monastery and get to know the religious there. Are they solid? Then support them with your money and prayers. Where is the closest discalced Carmelite convent to you? Start supporting them asking for their prayers? What about seminaries? You don't need me to tell you that not all seminaries are faithful and orthodox. There are still rotten seminaries out there. Research and ask about the seminaries near you. Visit them and learn about their curriculum and liturgical practices. Support the best seminaries. Focus your resources there. Begin researching Catholic Colleges that actually instill a deep Catholic faith in their students. Are these colleges equipping 22-year-olds to live debt-free, have large families, or find vocations?

* Support them. These institutions are the future of Catholicism. Don't waste your God-given time and money on apostolates, parishes, and schools that are not fully supporting the one true Faith without which it is impossible to please God (Heb 11:6).
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2013, 12:55:PM »

That's good advice.  I've quit supporting and attending the local parish a long time ago.  It's impossible to contribute to a parish with priests that try to undermine the Faith in a hundred sly little ways while claiming to be 100% orthodox.
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2013, 03:07:PM »

I attend either NO or a local TLM but financially support the SSPX.  I can't take the chance that my money would be diverted to pay sex abuse claims or hush money or fund some non-Catholic advocacy group etc. when you give money to the SSPX, I think it's safe to say that it will never end up in some Mexican abortionist's pocket or funding some looney feminist retreat. 

I am required to support the Church financially, but I never saw any small print about irregular situations etc.
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2013, 08:26:PM »

I attend either NO or a local TLM but financially support the SSPX.  I can't take the chance that my money would be diverted to pay sex abuse claims or hush money or fund some non-Catholic advocacy group etc. when you give money to the SSPX, I think it's safe to say that it will never end up in some Mexican abortionist's pocket or funding some looney feminist retreat. 

I am required to support the Church financially, but I never saw any small print about irregular situations etc.

I'm sure you could say the same about the FSSP or the Institute of Christ the King
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2013, 10:23:PM »

I am required to support the Church financially, but I never saw any small print about irregular situations etc.
Actually, my SSPX priest has said that's suppose to mean the church you attend and the law doesn't say anything about "financially". You are just required to support your church according your ability. So even if you don't make enough to give, you can always give your time or something.
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2013, 06:23:AM »

http://vimeo.com/60307695

http://www.taylormarshall.com/2013/03/interview-great-catholic-migration-of.html

Do you desire to grow in your Catholic Faith? Would you like richly biblical homilies? Catechesis that is orthodox and faithful to the living magisterium? Sacred Liturgy that that captures the beauty of holiness and brings due honor to God?

Of course you do! The question is, how do we find this glorious expression of the fullness of Catholicism?

Damian Goddard and I sat down for an interview about The Great Catholic Migration of the 21st Century - a post I recently wrote about the growing grassroots movement in the Catholic Church whereby the lay faithful are gravitating and drifting to parishes, priests, and monasteries where the Catholic Faith and Sacred Liturgy are expressed fully without shame or apologies.

read more at
http://www.taylormarshall.com/2013/01/are-you-part-of-great-catholic.html

What is to be done? My advice is that you should join the Great Catholic Migration of the 21st Century. Most people recognize that there is a de facto division growing within the Catholic Church. It's not popular are "ecclesiastically correct" to talk about this, but it's the elephant in the living room. There are those cardinals, bishops, priests, religious, and laity who are 100% supportive of the Holy Father and Catholic Tradition and then there is another group that is not 100% supportive.

My experience, and the experience of others, confirms that Group B is not sympathetic or helpful to the lay people belonging to Group A. I realize that this is a controversial analysis. I'm avoiding the terms "liberal" and "conservative" so that this comment feed doesn't spin out of control. However, we can all readily identify the theology, liturgical styles, magazines, publications, Catholic schools, politicians, and Catholic universities that belong to Group B. Group B is, no doubt, still the majority in America.

Yet in the last several years, since the beginning of the Pontificate of Pope Benedict XVI, a migration has been occurring. The folks in Group A are growing weary and discouraged. They love Christ, love Mary, love the Pope, love traditional devotions, they love traditional Catholic architecture (not white-washed auditoriums or modern "worship spaces"), they love Gregorian chant, reverence, beauty, and anything else that brings glory and honor to Christ. These people are those that pray and give the most, and they are tired of being beat up. They are now migrating.

Here is what I mean by migration. These Catholics are not physically moving to new geographic areas (though some Catholics do literally move to be part of a wonderful parish). They are realigning their attendance, resources, skills, and money to those parishes, orders, schools, colleges, and other institutions that support and promote traditional Catholic orthodoxy and practice. These Catholics see beyond the slogans, clichés, and gimmicks of Group B's institutional advantage, and they are becoming aware of Catholic leaders and clergy who are spear-heading this great migration.

This migration is made possible through public transportation and the internet. People can now drive to the "good parish" in the diocese. They can now download great homilies at places like audiosancto.org. They can now have fellowship and friendship with like-minded Catholics via the internet. They can refuse to put their money in the local parish collection and instead send it the FSSP, the Norbertines of Orange County, the Canons of St John Cantius, or to a solid orthodox College that promotes the magisterial teachings of the Catholic Church. A large network is currently being extended and strengthened. It's unstoppable.

What we have is a Catholic realignment and people are talking about it every day. It is only a matter of time before more and more people vote with their feet and vote with their pocket books. The dissenting parts of the Church will wither and die. Their influence will shrivel up.

For those that have written to me about their crises of conscience, my advice to you is this: begin the migration. I'll probably catch flack from this, but I have prayed about it and asked Christ to lead me on this question. I'd encourage all of you to do the same. Ask Christ our Lord where He wants you to be.

Is it a form of good stewardship to tithe your money to dissenting priests and parish staffs? Is it a form of good stewardship to submit your children to lame homilies, banal liturgy, and heterodoxy? I've only been given one life to live and Christ will ask me to give an account for each and every moment. I don't want to waste it and I bet that you don't want to waste it either.

Begin migrating to the good and holy priests who offer themselves as living sacrifices...for our spiritual well-being. Support these holy men! Find a monastery and get to know the religious there. Are they solid? Then support them with your money and prayers. Where is the closest discalced Carmelite convent to you? Start supporting them asking for their prayers? What about seminaries? You don't need me to tell you that not all seminaries are faithful and orthodox. There are still rotten seminaries out there. Research and ask about the seminaries near you. Visit them and learn about their curriculum and liturgical practices. Support the best seminaries. Focus your resources there. Begin researching Catholic Colleges that actually instill a deep Catholic faith in their students. Are these colleges equipping 22-year-olds to live debt-free, have large families, or find vocations?

* Support them. These institutions are the future of Catholicism. Don't waste your God-given time and money on apostolates, parishes, and schools that are not fully supporting the one true Faith without which it is impossible to please God (Heb 11:6).



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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2013, 12:05:PM »

Me thinks the Great Catholic Migration to the Traditional Latin Mass is just in it's infancy.
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