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« on: March 15, 2013, 08:29:AM »

There is a photograph flying around the internet at warp speed that appears to be of Cardinal Bergoglio receiving a blessing from a Protestant minister. Unsettling? Sure, but it now turns out that Cardinal Bergolio was in fact kneeling to receive a blessing from a Catholic priest when said Protestant minister stepped in to add his own two cents.

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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2013, 08:40:AM »

Here is the article from the Remnant good catch nmoerbeek

(ROME) As thousands of members of the press here in Rome made their collective dash to crank out copy and file rapid reports on the new pope, I found myself disposed to hold off at least until the smoke over the Sistine Chapel had cleared. After all, it’s difficult to form an objective opinion of a man engulfed in half-baked reports and rumors from “reliable sources” all over the world.   

What I can personally verify is that, true to form, the prognosticators were wrong.  I’ve been here in Rome for well over a week and during the run-up to the conclave, one name we didn’t hear mentioned  inside the Holy See’s media center or indeed anywhere else in this city  was Jorge Mario Cardinal Bergoglio—the 76-year-old who last night became the first Jesuit to ascend to the Chair of St. Peter.

Pope Francis is an Argentine, of course, who served as provincial of the Society of Jesus and Archbishop of Buenos Aires.   Hardly a Vatican insider, he reportedly kept his distance from the Roman Curia—a policy that may stand him in good stead to act decisively on the matter of the 300-page dossier on the Vatileaks scandal which Pope Benedict entrusted to his successor and which allegedly details wide spread corruption among the curia.

He’s known to have a strong devotion to the Blessed Mother (is said to pray fifteen decades of the rosary every day), and in fact called upon Our Lady several times from the loggia during his first message to the world last night. This morning one of his first papal acts was to make a pilgrimage to the Basilica Santa Maria Maggoire.  There he placed flowers on Mary’s altar and knelt for several long moments in prayer.  If externals mean anything, our Holy Father’s devotion to the Mother of God is as genuine as it is touching, which, of course, bodes well for him and for us all.

Over the years he has distinguished himself as a champion of Christian marriage, speaking out courageously against his own government’s stand in favor of so-called “gay marriage”. He’s also an outspoken defender of the unborn.  These are two happy realities that will most assuredly put our new pope at odds with the modern world, which is always a good thing.  There is no greater social or moral threat to our civilization today than that presented by the international warriors against the Christian family.  At least in this arena, it seems the forces of evil will have a force with which to be reckoned in Pope Francis.

Rumors and reports on the Internet create a far less positive impression of him where the question of the Traditional Latin Mass is concerned.  Initial reports have it that Cardinal Bergoglio was not enthusiastic about Pope Benedict’s muto proprio Summorum Pontificum and that he actively blocked good priests who wanted to start offering the old Mass.  It remains to be seen where Pope Francis stands on this question, but obviously it would be unthinkable for the new pope to undo the work of his predecessor where the Latin Mass is concerned.

On the other hand, there are other reports emerging now which tell quite a different story, and that is that Cardinal Bergoglio did not block the old Latin Mass and in fact set up at least a church in his diocese for its celebration.  Has this been verified?  Not definitively, however, we've already unearthed one Spanish-language news REPORT  which has it that within 48 hours after Summorum  Pontificum Cardinal Bergoglio had already approved St. Michael's parish in downtown Buenos Aires for the purpose of offering the old Mass.

There is a photograph flying around the internet at warp speed that appears to be of Cardinal Bergoglio receiving a blessing from a Protestant minister. Unsettling?  Sure, but it now turns out that Cardinal Bergolio was in fact kneeling to receive a blessing from a Catholic priest when said Protestant minister stepped in to add his own two cents. 

Another criticism that’s gone viral is that when the new pope paid his respects to his predecessor gfrom the loggia last night he neglected to use the title “pope” but rather referred to Benedict as “bishop of Rome”.  Scandal?   No.  Benedict XVI is still very much alive and has an official title: “His Holiness Benedict XVI, Bishop Emeritus of Rome”.  In other words, the new Pope got it exactly right.

A couple of hopeful tidbits: During the Holy Father’s first Mass in the Sistine Chapel today he was carrying the crosier of Pope Pius IX, the sacred music was all traditional, there were no women lectors, and the Mass was as dignified as the Novus Ordo can be.  Of course, this Mass presumably would have been arranged beforehand and for whoever was chosen; but I was gratified to see it nevertheless.   

Even more hopeful, as Pope Francis made his way through Santa Maria Maggiore today he quite unexpectedly stopped at the tomb of St Pope Pius V to kneel and pray to the champion of the Council of Trent and the Tridentine Mass. Make of this what you will.

Tomorrow there will be a papal audience for members of the press. I will be there to watch, listen and hopefully gain a better sense of who this man is. I will also attend the Angelus on Sunday for the same reason.  As far as I’m concerned, Jorge Cardinal Bergoglio is no more and it is time to acquaint ourselves with His Holiness Pope Francis. 

I remain hopeful, despite my initial sense of dread last night when it was announced that a South American Jesuit would be the new successor of St. Peter. Perhaps my dread will prove to have been warranted. Please God let it not be so. In the meantime the grace of office and the mysterious workings of the Holy Ghost can and often do change everything, as the example of Pope Pius IX bears out— the liberal cardinal who quite unexpectedly became the great papal hammer of the liberals.   

So forgive me for not combing the Internet for evidence of all the faults and missteps of Cardinal Bergoglio.  At this moment, I feel obligated before God to add my humble prayers to those of all the loyal sons and daughters of the Holy Father throughout the whole world for him.  May God grant him the strength to restore order to our Church in chaos and the faith to lead the world out of the valley of the shadow of death and into the light of Christ our King.
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2013, 08:40:AM »

Right.  Where is the evidence of Matt's side of the story?

That was not a photo "floating around".  It was attached to an article written at the time stating what happened.  Also looks to me, from the photo, like a sort of Ecumaniacs orgy where they all have a go at blessing each other.  If you lie with dogs - don't be too surprised when people think you have fleas.

A Buenos Aires journalist describes Bergoglio

We have many friends around the world, including in the dear Argentine Republic. And we asked a cherished friend Marcelo González, of Panorama Católico Internacional, who knows the Church of Argentina as well as the palm of his hand to send us a report on the new pope. Here it goes:


Perhaps JP2 was smelling the Koran too  Eye-roll

Sniff sniff.
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2013, 08:53:AM »

2 minutes on Google and I have already found a site with a photograph of the priest blessing Cardinal Bergoglio, being blessed by a man in a shirt and tie.  One would assume therefore a Protestant minister.  [edit confirmed below]

So as I correctly guessed an ecumenical love-in

Matt, needs to do more research.  And you need to be a little more objective in your thinking nmoerbeek

http://www.rccarqba.com.ar/

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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2013, 08:58:AM »

2 minutes on Google and I have already found a site with a photograph of the priest blessing Cardinal Bergoglio, being blessed by a man in a shirt and tie.  One would assume therefore a Protestant minister.

So as I correctly guessed an ecumenical love-in

Matt, needs to do more research.  And you need to be a little more objective in your thinking nmoerbeek

http://www.rccarqba.com.ar/


Thank you, ggreg. I had already decided upon canceling my subscription to The Remnant when it is up, but they keep encouraging me. Mr. Matt is also apparently unaware of the real situation around his response to Summorum, or chooses to ignore it. This is something that even bi-ritual Fr. Finigan of www.hermeneuticofcontinuity.blogspot.com, has posted.
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2013, 09:01:AM »

Right.  Where is the evidence of Matt's side of the story?

That was not a photo "floating around".  It was attached to an article written at the time stating what happened.  Also looks to me, from the photo, like a sort of Ecumaniacs orgy where they all have a go at blessing each other.  If you lie with dogs - don't be too surprised when people think you have fleas.

A Buenos Aires journalist describes Bergoglio

We have many friends around the world, including in the dear Argentine Republic. And we asked a cherished friend Marcelo González, of Panorama Católico Internacional, who knows the Church of Argentina as well as the palm of his hand to send us a report on the new pope. Here it goes:


Perhaps JP2 was smelling the Koran too  Eye-roll

Sniff sniff.

I always hoped JPII was just spitting out his gum.
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2013, 09:06:AM »

2 minutes on Google and I have already found a site with a photograph of the priest blessing Cardinal Bergoglio, being blessed by a man in a shirt and tie.  One would assume therefore a Protestant minister.

So as I correctly guessed an ecumenical love-in

Matt, needs to do more research.  And you need to be a little more objective in your thinking nmoerbeek

http://www.rccarqba.com.ar/


Thank you, ggreg. I had already decided upon canceling my subscription to The Remnant when it is up, but they keep encouraging me. Mr. Matt is also apparently unaware of the real situation around his response to Summorum, or chooses to ignore it. This is something that even bi-ritual Fr. Finigan of www.hermeneuticofcontinuity.blogspot.com, has posted.

Didn't take more than a single Google search on the two names  [bergoglio Cantalamessa].  Michael Matt obviously just wanted to post his propaganda and couldn't give two-sh!ts about the truth.

Google translate that rccarqba site and you can see the modernist progressive scum-bags that the Cardinal associates with.

Father Cantalamessa, is being blessed by protesant pastors Omar Cabrera Jr. and Norberto Saracco for the record.
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2013, 09:07:AM »

I must confess that I always have liked Micheal Matt, and that I just quoted his article, the words are not my own.
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2013, 09:11:AM »

Right, neither were the words of those Chinese students who humiliated their teachers with Mao's little red book.

You're just a useful idiot  LOL

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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2013, 09:32:AM »

There is a photograph flying around the internet at warp speed that appears to be of Cardinal Bergoglio receiving a blessing from a Protestant minister. Unsettling? Sure, but it now turns out that Cardinal Bergolio was in fact kneeling to receive a blessing from a Catholic priest when said Protestant minister stepped in to add his own two cents.

Source Front Page of

http://www.remnantnewspaper.com/

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Traditionally a bishop does not kneel to receive a blessing from a priest he stands and bows. Either way the Card. was wrong.
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