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« on: April 13, 2006, 11:20:PM » |
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So, I'm starting to think about my general confession. And I probably don't really need an answer for this (I have a feeling I know what it is) But since, technically, I'm getting all my sins washed away at my baptism, does that mean that I can leave out a particularly embarrassing sin from the past when I give a General Confession in a couple of weeks? I'll probably tell it anyways, because I have fears about not being truely forgiven for my awfulness. But was curious.
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Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true.– Buddha
Note: According to this precept, I find that Buddhism is NOT true. I have tested and judged many things, and the only Truth I have found is in God's One True Church: The Catholic Church.
Dear Lord, I know I can live by Your Holy Will every moment of my life, because You have given me faith that Your Grace will enable me to.
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2006, 11:33:PM » |
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As I was once told by a priest: Even if you killed 100 people, baptism washes away these sins. Of course, you need the right disposition for baptism.
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2006, 02:32:PM » |
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The laver of regeneration (Baptism) is the translation (a changing) from being a son of Adam to becoming an adopted son of God (Council of Trent). Baptism infuses sanctifying grace. As soon as you are baptized, you are no longer the sinner you were once before. Baptism removes Original and actual sin. Confession is not necessdary, the washing of the baptismal water has done that, your sins are forgiven. The past is past. Jesus has forgiven you and no longer remembers your past sins no matter how horrible they were. Your need to go to confession is when you fall (which we all are apt to do) again. General confession at this time is unnecessary.
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gladius_veritatis
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2006, 03:56:PM » |
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But since, technically, I'm getting all my sins washed away at my baptism, does that mean that I can leave out a particularly embarrassing sin from the past when I give a General Confession in a couple of weeks? Imo, if you are going to confess any of your past sins, the ones which are gravest, and which will help humble you most (e.g., an 'embarrassing' sin), ought to be the ones you begin with - adding the others if time and memory permit. None are necessary in a g.c., but the confession of those that really demonstrate the essence of our true, past ingratitude go a long way in helping establish us in humility and the resolution to forsake them forever.
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AdoramusTeChriste
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2006, 04:13:PM » |
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So, I'm starting to think about my general confession. And I probably don't really need an answer for this (I have a feeling I know what it is)
But since, technically, I'm getting all my sins washed away at my baptism, does that mean that I can leave out a particularly embarrassing sin from the past when I give a General Confession in a couple of weeks?
I'll probably tell it anyways, because I have fears about not being truely forgiven for my awfulness. But was curious.
Why do you have to go to confession before baptism? If you have never been baptized, there is absolutely no need to. My d-i-l was baptized 2 years ago and I just asked her about it. She did not go to confession before her baptism. Confession is for sins committed after baptism.
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TRAD UP!!! S.A.G. ~ Kathy ~ Sanguine-choleric. Have fun...or else. Adoramus te, Christe, et benedicimus tibi, quia per sanctam crucem tuam redemisti mundum. To listen to the hymn- http://fisheaters.com/forumpix/adoramustechriste.html"I am convinced that the crisis of the church which we are living through today was largely caused by the disintegration of the liturgy." - The former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger "Their cold stares remind me of the neo-cons that just sign up to FE - they are fish, but they are dead." ~ Marty
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miss_fluffy
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2006, 04:15:PM » |
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I'm not going before my baptism. I plan to go of my own accord, in a couple of weeks, in order to ease myself.
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Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true.– Buddha
Note: According to this precept, I find that Buddhism is NOT true. I have tested and judged many things, and the only Truth I have found is in God's One True Church: The Catholic Church.
Dear Lord, I know I can live by Your Holy Will every moment of my life, because You have given me faith that Your Grace will enable me to.
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gladius_veritatis
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2006, 04:19:PM » |
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I'm not going before my baptism. I plan to go of my own accord, in a couple of weeks, in order to ease myself. No offense, my lady, but if you go, go to glorify God - as the motive of easing yourself might betray a lack of faith that Baptism does what the Church says it does.
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miss_fluffy
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2006, 04:21:PM » |
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I'm not going before my baptism. I plan to go of my own accord, in a couple of weeks, in order to ease myself. No offense, my lady, but if you go, go to glorify God - as the motive of easing yourself might betray a lack of faith that Baptism does what the Church says it does. Hmmm... maybe I'll have to mention lack of faith in the confession. sigh... I need help all around. I guess it'll be good to go talk to the priest on any account. Maybe I'll feel better after the baptism. Perhaps my lack of faith has something to do with not being baptized yet.
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Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true.– Buddha
Note: According to this precept, I find that Buddhism is NOT true. I have tested and judged many things, and the only Truth I have found is in God's One True Church: The Catholic Church.
Dear Lord, I know I can live by Your Holy Will every moment of my life, because You have given me faith that Your Grace will enable me to.
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AdoramusTeChriste
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2006, 04:24:PM » |
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I'm not going before my baptism. I plan to go of my own accord, in a couple of weeks, in order to ease myself. Miss_Fluffy, You really don't have to do that. Trust in the sacrament- it was given to us by Christ.  In a couple of weeks, all you have to confess are any mortal sins committed after baptism. Of course, you can (and should) confess venial sins, too. As for your old sins, you can still express sorrow and contrition for them, but they do not need to be confessed. For example, after confessing current sins, I add that I am sorry for past sins (whatever fault that my examination of conscience has brought to mind). Do you see what I mean?
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TRAD UP!!! S.A.G. ~ Kathy ~ Sanguine-choleric. Have fun...or else. Adoramus te, Christe, et benedicimus tibi, quia per sanctam crucem tuam redemisti mundum. To listen to the hymn- http://fisheaters.com/forumpix/adoramustechriste.html"I am convinced that the crisis of the church which we are living through today was largely caused by the disintegration of the liturgy." - The former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger "Their cold stares remind me of the neo-cons that just sign up to FE - they are fish, but they are dead." ~ Marty
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miss_fluffy
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2006, 04:28:PM » |
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No offense, my lady, but if you go, go to glorify God - as the motive of easing yourself might betray a lack of faith that Baptism does what the Church says it does. Okay, wait a second, that doesn't seem quite the same as what you said about it before in a different thread: You are free to confess any and/or all sins of your entire life (as best you can recall them), if you desire to do so. Baptism "cleans the slate", but it is very laudable to confess those previous sins anyway, and it is good for contrition and humility. General confession is good for the soul, keeps up contrition for past sins, and is recommended by most of the masters of the spiritual life as a good, yearly practice. Good for the soul and ease of mind is not the same thing I guess?
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Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true.– Buddha
Note: According to this precept, I find that Buddhism is NOT true. I have tested and judged many things, and the only Truth I have found is in God's One True Church: The Catholic Church.
Dear Lord, I know I can live by Your Holy Will every moment of my life, because You have given me faith that Your Grace will enable me to.
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