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Author Topic: Question about Our Lady's words at Fatima  (Read 378 times)
fiatvoluntastua
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« on: April 18, 2006, 08:37:AM »

 Our Lady at Fatima said "In Portugal the dogma of the faith will always be preservered".  How do Traditional Catholics (sede and non-sede, I'm curious to hear both interpretations) look at that in light of the facts, where Portugal has lost the dogma of the faith as much as any other country and the Shrine itself is on the way to become some interreligious gathering place that looks like an airplane hanger.

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Quo_Vadis_Petre
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2006, 12:02:PM »

I would think that there would be a condition, found in the Third Secret, in which Portugal would be preserved from the Faith
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lumengentleman
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2006, 12:50:PM »

Quote from: fiatvoluntastua
 Our Lady at Fatima said "In Portugal the dogma of the faith will always be preservered".  How do Traditional Catholics (sede and non-sede, I'm curious to hear both interpretations) look at that in light of the facts, where Portugal has lost the dogma of the faith as much as any other country and the Shrine itself is on the way to become some interreligious gathering place that looks like an airplane hanger.

I think QVP's post above makes sense: there is probably some kind of condition stated which relates to Portugal, and which they obviously have not met.

 

Another interpretation I've heard is that "the dogma of the faith" refers to one specific dogma, not to the whole - perhaps to the Trinity?  EENS?

 

Perhaps we haven't seen the fulfillment of this prophecy yet.  It may well refer to a future date, when perhaps Portugal will see a kind of revival, while the rest of the world denounces the Faith altogether.

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