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Author Topic: Indult or SSPV?  (Read 3291 times)
Kephapaulos
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2006, 11:32:PM »

Quote from: DominusTecum

You know, EENS, confirmation is not an essential sacrament, and it's OK to have it put off. If you can't get it in the traditional rite at the present, it's quite OK to wait till you're 18 and are on your own/have a car and can drive some, etc, and can thus go to the Mass that you desire, where you'll be able to be confirmed.

 

 

I agree, Eric.

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liliaagri
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2006, 02:15:PM »

You should certainly go to the SSPV, even if you don't agree with their views on sedevacantism. The indult is really just a Novus Ordo mass in Latin. You don't know what you might be getting. A doubtful sacrament is not a sacrament.

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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2006, 02:27:PM »

I'd rather wait than ask a sede for confirmation.
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2006, 02:31:PM »

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The indult is really just a Novus Ordo mass in Latin.

erm, no it isn't it, it is the tridentine rite, the same rite used by other traditional catholics and is without doubt valid.

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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2006, 02:39:PM »

If you ARE loyal to the Pope, then why ask a sedevacantist for confirmation?
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Charlemagne
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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2006, 03:01:PM »

SSPV are sede's.  If your not a sede then you definitely shouldn't go through them as a matter of principal really as much as anything else, and as there are so many alternatives there is no need.

And this is worth repeating:

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If you ARE loyal to the Pope, then why ask a sedevacantist for confirmation?
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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2006, 03:11:PM »

my only issue is i need confirmataion, if i decide to enter a relegious  order after highschool. so waiting until the last minute is not such a  good idea. i might email the SSPX to see if i can be confirmed in  Philidelphia.
 
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« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2006, 03:18:PM »

SSPV are not sedes, they are "de facto" sedes. I believe that it is left up to the conscience of the individual priest whether he is "una cum" or not. The official position of the SSPV is simply that it is at least a debatable position that the post-conciliar pontiffs are true Popes. Other than this minor quibble, I know nothing about the SSPV. I will say that Fr. Jenkins is a very holy priest, very wise, and that you may be assured of getting the "whole traditional faith" if you go to him. The de-facto sedevacantism is a problem, however, and whether you can or cannot receive the sacraments there is up to the dictates of your own conscience, there's nothing we can do to help you.

 

The Indult is also most likely the whole traditional faith. Increasingly, Indults are indeed offering confirmation in the Traditional Rite, due to the cooperation of local ordinaries. If you are not a sedevacantist, and you believe that the Pope is the Pope, I would recommend going to the Indult. However, the Indults can occasionally be a little modern, so go first, and see how it is. If it seems "trad" then stick with it. If the homilies are Novus Ordo and the liturgy seems not to be done correctly, then maybe it isn't the place for you.

 

 

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« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2006, 03:46:PM »

ill have to see what the SSPX says about confirmation
 
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« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2006, 06:30:PM »

Quote from: Charlemagne
SSPV are sede's. If your not a sede then you  definitely shouldn't go through them as a matter of principal really as  much as anything else, and as there are so many alternatives there is  no need.

And this is worth repeating:

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If you ARE loyal to the Pope, then why ask a sedevacantist for confirmation?

i see no alternatives
 
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