Who would attend the NO?

[lumengentleman]

Furthermore, even if he DID promulgate it and it is therefore binding that it be a Holy Mass and not just a Mass, when is the last time you saw a reverent, Ad Orientam, Latin, "pro multis," Communion railed, roman-Canon'd, Novus Ordo Missae? It practically does not exist. Therefore, even if Paul VI DID truly promulgate the Novus Ordo, I have every reason not to attend pretty much every Novus Ordo in the world ...

 

I would agree, and that's largely been my justification for not attending the Novus Ordo - precisely because the Mass offered at 95% of my town's parishes is not the Novus Ordo, it's - for lack of a better term - the American Rite of Mass.

 

On the other hand, Paul is also correct: having the priest face the people, receiving Communion standing, and - yes - even receiving Communion in the hand are not sacrilegious.  Certainly not preferrable, certainly less conducive to forming right dispositions, but not sacrilegious.

[FlosCarmeli]

Whenever I have gone tot he Novus Ordo, I received on the knee's and on the tongue with no problem from the priests. In fact, once, I got into a interesting discussion witha Monsignor who said "ecumenism is this: us telling other religions that they're wrong and we're right." I busted out laughing, it was great.

[miss_fluffy]

 

2) The Old Mass is better than the New, and so we should go to the Old Mass instead of the New if we have the option; if we don't, it's off to the New Mass

 

   

 

 

3) The Old Mass is far more superior than the New, and so we should go to the Old Mass instead of the New if we have the option;  if we don't have that option, we will go to the Byzantine Rite before  we go to the New Mass, and in fact, we'll pack up the family and move  across several states in order to live where there is an Old Mass available

 

 

I  think I fall somewhere between these two options. I would make great  sacrifices to make sure that I live near a Latin Mass, but since it's  never easy to pick up and move, and since financial hardships are  sometimes too restrictive, I don't think it would always be possible.  For example, if the two TLM options in my city were to disappear, I'm  not sure I would be able to move, but I certainly would want to.
 

 

  I currently have to bus to Mass (no car), it takes me about 5-6 hours  to go to the TLM Mass, an hour and a half to get there, and about two  hours to get back. If I want to go to confession beforehand, then I  have to leave another hour earlier.

 

  If I'm having a bad weekend, and the timing just won't work out, I do  resort to the NO, and I frequently resort to going to the NO on  Saturday for confession. At least I have a couple of conservative  options near my home, but they still do the lame music and hand-holding  bits. I have made efforts to shop different churches and different time  slots to find the most "acceptable" NO mass available.
 

 

  However, oftentimes I end up going to the NO Mass out of laziness,  because I just don't want to take the time, or wait in the heat for the  bus (I have to make an exchange each trip, and it's a long wait). But I  have found that I always regret it when I miss it, I'm always  disappointed in the NO Mass, and I'm always very glad that I made the  sacrifice to get to the TLM when I go. The sermon is always awesome,  and I always feel so renewed and blessed
 

 

When  I do go to the NO mass, I sometimes do not receive the Eucharist. I  skip it if the Mass so far was truely awful, or if it looks like I'm  going to have to make too much of a scene to get into the priests line  so that I can receive on the tongue.
 

 

 

 
 

 
 

   

   

 

[Sophia]

I currently have to bus to Mass (no car), it takes me about 5-6 hours to go to the TLM Mass, an hour and a half to get there, and about two hours to get back. If I want to go to confession beforehand, then I have to leave another hour earlier.

This is about our story, except we have a car.  We go every week, and we stay for catechism and coffee.  We are able to build friendships for ourselves and our children.  We've been doing this for many years now.  There are several families who have to ride at great expense in their 15 passenger vans. It is a weekly pilgrimage.  I would rather do this than go to my local Novus Ordo 5 min. from home, even if they said it in Latin.


I used to think people like that were nuts.

[CatholicLady]

As most of you already know, I belong to a large NO parish near Cincinnati, Ohio....I attend both Sunday and Daily Masses there. I have no problem with this, at all....Our masses are very well done, and our people are (with a few exceptions, I will admit) quite reverent and respectful of the Eucharist. I sing with a small group for the 7:30am Mass every Sunday.  I also am part of the RCIA Team, and do other ministries.  I love my parihs, and would be offended to have anyone suggest that to attend mass there is to flirt with disaaster spiritually speaking.  

However....I have a lot of respect and admirtion for those who make sacrifices of time and money to attend the TLM....I wouldn't be here otherwise.  I am always impressed with the length many of you go to to make sure your families are nurtured in Traditional Catholicism....You are certainly an inspiration to me, and for others. 

Sandy

[nicollette]

By DominusTecum

I would never scandalize a child by subjecting him to the Novus Ordo. Furthermore, I think that if it is manifestly wrong for me to subject children to it, it is manifestly wrong for me to subject myself to it as well. The idea that I should go "just because I have an obligation" is preposterous. I wouldn't go to an Eastern Schismatic Church if I was in Greece and there were no Catholic Churches around, and their sacrament is assuredly valid. Why, then, should I go to the Novus Ordo, where even the validity is questionable, depending on the intentions of the priest, and there is a magnification of the amount of sacrilege by a hundredfold. Too, as Sophia points out, if one continuously does this, it is more than simply conceivable that one might lose the faith little by little, as the parishioners at the NO in the 60s/70s did. Why should we make ourselves present at sacrilege? There is a bit of a disconnect here, again, more legalism. We are afraid of breaking the Church law, but the Church law assumes that the Mass we will be attending will help us to save our soul, not to damn us, cause us to lose the faith, be infected with heresy, scandalize our children, go to the opposite extreme of despair, etc.

 

We cannot give our tacit approval to the Novus Ordo by our example in attending it. We cannot allow sacrilege and heresy to be passed off as "ok in an emergency." Would you have thought to to go the heretical Anglican services at the time when the priests still had valid orders? "Oh, I don't go with their heresy, I am still loyal to the pope, but they have a valid eucharist at present and I don't want to starve myself." No, you would not. You would stay far, far away, and this is what we should do at the Novus Ordo.

 

Archbishop Lefebvre agreed here, of course. He advised Catholics who could not get to the True Mass to avoid the scandal, sacrilege, ad infinitum that was the Novus Ordo, and to stay at home with their rosary and handmissal. How much more now should we take his advice to heart, considering that the Novus Ordos of today are vastly worse than the Novus Ordo services which he had the misfortune to observe or hear of.

 

  

 

After my latest experience your post hits it right of the head for me.  It was worth up-rooting and moving away for the Mass, it has made such a difference for us. 

[FlosCarmeli]

Makes one really ponder buying that t-shirt that says "I drive 500 miles for the Latin Mass!" Man, that shirt is great... thankfully, I dont wear t-shirts.

http://www.betterinlatin.com/

[PsychoMonkey]

Don't hate me. I'm affraid I'd have to say #4.

EDIT: Send all hate mail to hatemail@rh-factor.net. :D

[catholicresistence]

I currently have to bus to Mass (no car), it takes me about 5-6 hours to go to the TLM Mass, an hour and a half to get there, and about two hours to get back. If I want to go to confession beforehand, then I have to leave another hour earlier.

 

This is about our story, except we have a car.  We go every week, and we stay for catechism and coffee.  We are able to build friendships for ourselves and our children.  We've been doing this for many years now.  There are several families who have to ride the ferry every week at great expense in their 15 passenger vans. In the summer months the heat and the crowds make it a real cross.  It is a weekly pilgrimage.  I would rather do this than go to my local Novus Ordo 5 min. from home, even if they said it in Latin.

 

When we were in Georgia we were only able to go to a church in SC that had the Indult once a month.  Both the SSPX and the FSSP in GA were a 3 hr. drive.  Six hours in the car in one day was too much on a weekly basis for us with little ones.  I imagine that there are some who do this though.

 

I used to think people like that were nuts.

 

I, too, have a church 5 minutes away. But no thanks, priest nice and I Occ go there for confession, but  Iprefer teh longer drive, saner Mass

[catholicresistence]

a Monsignor who said "ecumenism is this: us telling other religions that they're wrong and we're right." I busted out laughing, it was great.

 

hahah

Good one!! so true, I have a neighbor that is ex-Catholic, no member of WWCG (Armstrong's cult). Her mouth dropped, when I said 'We (Catholic) ARE the true Church. She was railing against the belief that anyone has the truth.