Are the Knights of Columbus Freemasons?

[HMiS]

I would not join them anymore, as the KofC lost their anti-Masonic doctrine in the process of the "modern Church" reconciling with Freemasonry in the post-Conciliar era.

 

Afterwards, they got engaged in "joint charity works" and, of course, more exchanges to the extent, that modern Knights of Columbus are now attending Masonic lodges sometimes and thereby betraying their founder, a very anti-Masonic, anti-liberal Jesuit Priest.

[kjvail]

I became a First Degree Knight a couple years ago and then discovered they were nothing but an insurance agency. That was the only contact I ever had with them, the 10 or more times someone called me to sell me insurance. He didn't want to take no for an answer until I got downright curt with him. I haven't heard from them since and I didn't pay my dues this year. They are a waste of time IMO

[Mommie2Boys]

That's such a shame that they seem to be so watered down these days. So many things that started as good and wholesome alternatives seem to be little better than the original institutions they were trying to escape! :(

 

I've always been curious as to the Knights of Columbus..I don't really know much about them other than they sponsor Pancake breakfasts and Fish Fries at the local parishes and that my Grandpa was once one. Thanks for the info!

[Catholicmilkman]

Why don't we start our own traditional Catholic Knights? We used to have the Name Holy Society in own chapel but they broke up and now all the men just pronunce the oath on the Sundays that for the Holy Name of Jesus.

[Liza_Do_A_Lot]

 

Knights Of Our Lady

 

 

WHAT IS THE ORDER?…A Brief History

 

The Order of the Knights of Our Lady; Observance of the Holy Hearts of Jesus and Mary, was established in l945 by a young Dom Lafond, who soon thereafter became a Benedictine Monk. The Order received approbation and canonical acceptance by various diocese, and was based on those of the Middle Ages – Knight Templars and Hospitallers. The Rule, manner of conduct and most importantly, it’s “raison-d’etre”, are profoundly concerned with the restoration of Christ in His rightful place as King of all nations.

 

 

After a meteoric expansion and success in the fight against Communism and Liberalism, the events of Vatican Council ll produced a split in the Order. The Conservative element eventually regrouped, after much procrastination, and a search for the strong leadership required. Even then the Knights of Our Lady wasn’t properly recognized until l989.Our present Master, Mr. LeRoy, is one of those who reformed the Order.

 

 

WHY ARE MEMBERS CALLED SQUIRES AND KNIGHTS?

 

The Church has often called its members to active missions in its long history. Knighthood in its true sense is the benediction (blessing) given to men who are prepared to follow a strict regime of loyalty to Traditions and are able and willing to fight for Holy Mother Church in every manner to achieve the end of its mission. Today’s Knights of Our Lady are no different to those of the Military Orders of the Middle Ages, except that we are not celibate, and use less forceful means to combat the enemies of Christ. We do, however, vow to fight to the shedding of blood if the Church calls us to such action.

 

 

HOW DO I DECIDE IF THIS IS FOR ME?

 

Easy…come to our monthly meetings, held on the first Friday of each month , at the St. Thomas Aquinas College in Tynong, we start after evening Mass. This will give you the opportunity to observe how the program in conducted and you’ll have the opportunity to ask questions, etc.

 

 

I LIKE THE CONCEPT BUT IT’S TOO DEMANDING!

 

If you like the aims of the Order, and feel you’d like to support it, consider joining one of the support groups;

 

1.                Auxilliary: help when you can spiritually, physically or financially

 

2.                Friends of the Order: as a benefactor.

 

3.                Spiritual Corp: religious.

 

 

Orders who pray and sacrifice become the “fuel” for the fight. All members of the above categories receive the regular bulletin detailing all events and activities both here and in New Zealand, the Philippines, and overseas. The first two category members are required to contribute a minimum of $50  per year to help defray the costs of the Order.

 

IF I JOIN, WHAT’S REQUIRED?

 

Attendance of the monthly meetings which involve prayer, study, and planning of activities. These also provide a mutual support to each other as we all struggle with the challenges of aiming to live almost heroic Catholic lives. Approximately half an hour daily is required for prayers, meditation and readings. Attendance of at least one weekly mass is required, and a regular study of a devotional program. For the active community work, our efforts at present involve the running of the Pages and Cadets program.

 

 

WHAT ARE THE PAGES AND CADETS?

 

Boys from the ages of 8 to l2 (Cadets) and 12 to l8 (Pages) attend monthly meetings where they learn the History of the Church (Knighthood),liturgy, chivalry and a variety of skills that include; bushcraft, mechanics, sports and obstacles courses , all designed to fine tune both the mind and body. Those chosen to join are expected to conduct themselves in an exemplary manner in public. The ultimate aim is to encourage the Cadets to progress through the ten year program to become Pages, Squires, Donats, then eventually Knights in the Order.

 

I have the contact details if any of you are interested in more information!  Just PM me, and I'll pass it on to you!

 

 

 

       

[jovan66102]

My best friend's dad used to be in the Knights of Columbus and at a ceremony where he was being promoted he made a speech and mentioned Christ's name. Everyone there was horrified and later somebody said to him, "Don't you know better than to say 'Christ' to room full of Masons?" Needless to say, he never went back.

 

Excuse my French, but Bullsh*t! I'm a twenty year Knight and there are nNO Masons in the Knights!!!!

[jovan66102]

Charles Coulombe wrote the article I read that accused the Knights of Freemasonry:

http://www.cheetah.net/%7Eccoulomb/confessions.html

 

Campy,

 

Can't you recognise satire when you see it? this article is absolutely hilarious!

[jovan66102]

I would not join them anymore, as the KofC lost their anti-Masonic doctrine in the process of the "modern Church" reconciling with Freemasonry in the post-Conciliar era.

 

Afterwards, they got engaged in "joint charity works" and, of course, more exchanges to the extent, that modern Knights of Columbus are now attending Masonic lodges sometimes and thereby betraying their founder, a very anti-Masonic, anti-liberal Jesuit Priest.

 

Fr McGivney was a diocesan, not a Jesuit!

[QuisUtDeus]

Some extreme Protestants call the KofC "Catholic Freemasons" but that is not true at all.

 

I absolutely don't believe that someone said "Don't say Christ in front of Freemasons" at a KofC meeting.  That sounds like a Southern Baptist joke that made its way into urban legend.

 

However, never having been one, and seeing the wackiness in the Novus Ordo these days, it would be hard to believe that some of the craziness hasn't gotten into the KofC either.

[jovan66102]

Now, Campy to your original question: No, the Knights are neither Masons nor Masonic fellow travelers. What they are is a decent organisation of Catholic men, subverted by V II, I was a member for 20 plus years, but could no longer belong to the same organisation as Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and their ilk. I wrote the Supreme Knight asking when they were going to expel these anti-Catholics and was told that until their bishops excommunicated them (fat chance!) the Order could do nothing!!

 

As to secrecy: No Masonic Lodge will willingly reveal its membership, its rituals or anything about it. The membership and rituals of the Knights are open to any Catholic cleric and to any officer of the State who wants to view them. Nuff said.

 

While it is true, as one poster said, that they are an insurance order, this was one of the main reasons Fr McGivney founded them. In the 1880's insurance companies did not insure individuals for health or life. This was all done through fraternal societies, most of which were inimical to the Faith. Fr McGivney gave Catholic men and their families an alternative in keeping with our Faith. I'm sorry the earlier poster joined a council that saw itself "only" in those terms. My council was very active in family oriented activities (Christmas parties for the kids, e.g.), pro-life activities, support for Catholic schools, etc. One of the neatest things we did, in my opinion, was that two or three times a year, we would mow the Catholic cemetery and straighten and shore up the 100+ year old tombstones that were falling down (an extension of the corporal work of mercy, to bury the dead?).

 

In my opinion, as a former member, the Knights, like many other organisations in the Church, are a pale imitation of their founder's intentions as a result of the "Spirit of V II" but they are not and never have been Masonic!