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Author Topic: If you can't/don't attend a Mass  (Read 2935 times)
CaroleK
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« on: January 07, 2007, 10:12:AM »

but instead read it at home (for those that do not have a TLM available to them) ...

What do you use for this?

Currently we attend Mass at the Shrine of the Most Blessed Sacrament - but in rare circumstances when we are unable to attend the Mass our only other option (at this time) is the local NO parish which my husband has said we will not attend for any reason.

We've decided to pray the Mass at home on those days when we cannot attend Mass.  But I'm wondering what resource would be best for this.  We have a 1962 Missal - but I'm not sure how to properly use it.

Advice, resources, instruction would be appreciated.

Thank you!

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newtolatin
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2007, 01:44:PM »

Hi Carole,
We frequently cannot attend Mass, because it is simply too far even to the nearest NO. When this happens, we watch a film of the TLM which my husband downloaded. We used to listen to a recording of a Latin Mass and I would read the English out loud, but we just did that temporarily so the children (mostly the older ones, 12 and 14) would get some idea of what was going on. (Now we are going to be studying Latin and learning more of the prayers.)

There is also a document on Traditio about what to do if you cannot attend Mass—read it over very carefully before you do it because it has options ;) but I prefer watching the Mass and making a Spiritual Communion. the document was written in the 1600s, when they didn't have all this technology and they didn't have missals, either AFAICT.

We have a couple of 62 missals (my mother gave me one from Bishop Fulton Sheen Smile ) so we can keep up with the readings, etc.

HTH and if you want the  url of the Mass, let me know and I'll get it from my husband. I thought it was very nice, and that the priest had a nice French accent to his Latin, but it is actually from Poland :oops: They have a camera on the side so that you can see what the priest is doing on the altar, and that is nice for the children to see, and most of the audio is very clear. It is fairly new, also.
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2007, 12:57:AM »

Here is a link for a "Manner of Following Mass at Home."  

http://www.giftsofaith.com/Files/vine.pdf

This is the intro:

"This wonderful means of assisting at the holy sacrifice was
discovered while searching through my grandfather's prayer book,
copyright 1896. Since daily Mass is not always possible, the thought of
participating in all the Masses offered throughout the world seemed to be
a true blessing. The decision was made to share this most probably
forgotten 'Spiritual Mass'. And so, through the inspiration of the Holy
Spirit and for God's glory, it is now available for all those who for good
reason cannot assist at the holy sacrifice in body."
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2007, 04:45:AM »

I just read the Missal, Ordinary and Propers.

 

I don't give a sermon!

 

I think also, any kind of spiritual reading or extra decades of the rosary, over and above what you'd normally do, is acceptable instead of the missal (or as well as).

 

Clare.

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gilbertgea
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2007, 07:43:AM »

'...but instead read it at home (for those that do not have a TLM available to them) ... What do you use for this?'

Any pre-Vatican II Missal will do.  My family and I use the St. Andrews Daily Missal, for instance.


'Currently we attend Mass at the Shrine of the Most Blessed Sacrament - but in rare circumstances when we are unable to attend the Mass our only other option (at this time) is the local NO parish which my husband has said we will not attend for any reason.'

Good for him.  Avoid it like the plague.


'We've decided to pray the Mass at home on those days when we cannot attend Mass.  But I'm wondering what resource would be best for this.  We have a 1962 Missal - but I'm not sure how to properly use it.'

Have your husband read through it as if he were standing in for a priest.  He is not, of course, a priest and cannot consecrate a host, etc.  However, he can and should lead your family prayers which would include praying the Mass at home.

Another note, as you wont be making Confession or receiving Communion at home, you could try to make an Act of Contrition before you read the Mass and, at the time when you would be taking Communion, make a 'spiritual Communion' (a prayer expressing your intent to receive Communion), as it were.  Again, the St. Andrews I have includes that a prayer for that purpose.


'I don't give a sermon!'

I dont either.  My personal opinion is that, that would be 'going too far'.  However, I do read the Epistle and the Gospel in English and not Latin, because they are 'lessons', in a sense.  I also read the introduction to each day's propers, which usually gives some sort of historical context concerning what is being prayed and why.


'I think also, any kind of spiritual reading or extra decades of the rosary, over and above what you'd normally do, is acceptable instead of the missal (or as well as).'

I would hasten to clarify that I wouldnt use 'any' kind of spiritual reading.  Any Catholic spiritual reading, perhaps, but not as a part of the Mass.  I'd do it before or after.

If you have a Breviary or a Monastic Diurnal, etc. you can pray the Divine Office.  If you have a Raccolta, etc. you could research and include some prayers appropriate to the particular day or season.  There are also Chaplets that you can pray, such as St. Michael's Chaplet, St. Joseph's Chaplet, etc.

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KatieRD
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2007, 11:17:AM »

Hi

 

I don't post very often but am a NO Catholic trying to find out about Traditionalism so I do lurk alot here. 

 

It is a mortal sin to miss Mass on Sundays and holy days of obligation, so if any Traditionalists are unable to regularly go to a Traditionalist Mass due to distance or whatever and don't go to a NO Mass instead, would this be considered a mortal sin? 

 

Please bear in mind that I'm not arguing but just trying to find out.

 

Many thanks

 

God bless

Katie

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gilbertgea
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2007, 11:21:AM »

'It is a mortal sin to miss Mass on Sundays and holy days of obligation,'

Yes.

'...so if any Traditionalists are unable to regularly go to a Traditionalist Mass due to distance or whatever and don't go to a NO Mass instead, would this be considered a mortal sin?'

No.

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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2007, 11:45:AM »

Quote from: KatieRD

Hi

 

I don't post very often but am a NO Catholic trying to find out about Traditionalism so I do lurk alot here. 

 

It is a mortal sin to miss Mass on Sundays and holy days of obligation, so if any Traditionalists are unable to regularly go to a Traditionalist Mass due to distance or whatever and don't go to a NO Mass instead, would this be considered a mortal sin? 

 

Please bear in mind that I'm not arguing but just trying to find out.

 

Many thanks

 

God bless

Katie

It really depends on who you are asking Katie.  There is a wide range of opinions on this matter, which I'm sure will follow.  I happen to consider it a mortal sin, but I have some conservative NO masses available to me at various locations and times on Sundays.  I can't speak for everyone's individual circumstance. 

 

I think if mass is missed for any reason, it's a good idea to get to confession as soon as possible just in case it is a mortal sin.

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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2007, 12:19:PM »

Quote from: gilbertgea
'I don't give a sermon!'

I dont either.  My personal opinion is that, that would be 'going too far'.  However, I do read the Epistle and the Gospel in English and not Latin, because they are 'lessons', in a sense.  I also read the introduction to each day's propers, which usually gives some sort of historical context concerning what is being prayed and why.

I read it all in English.

Quote from: gilbertgea
'I think also, any kind of spiritual reading or extra decades of the rosary, over and above what you'd normally do, is acceptable instead of the missal (or as well as).'

I would hasten to clarify that I wouldnt use 'any' kind of spiritual reading.  Any Catholic spiritual reading, perhaps, but not as a part of the Mass.  I'd do it before or after.

Catholic spiritual reading, obviously! That is a given!

 

I didn't mean as part of Mass, but as an alternative, or in addition.

Clare.

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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2007, 12:21:PM »

Quote from: KatieRD

Hi

 

I don't post very often but am a NO Catholic trying to find out about Traditionalism so I do lurk alot here. 

 

It is a mortal sin to miss Mass on Sundays and holy days of obligation, so if any Traditionalists are unable to regularly go to a Traditionalist Mass due to distance or whatever and don't go to a NO Mass instead, would this be considered a mortal sin? 

 

Please bear in mind that I'm not arguing but just trying to find out.

Hi Katie.

 

It is a mortal sin to miss Mass without good reason.

 

That the Mass is Novus Ordo is a good reason for missing it!

 

Clare.

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