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Author Topic: Why was ChantCd deleted?  (Read 3312 times)
VoxClamantis
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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2007, 04:53:AM »

Quote from: Daniel
Sorry to see you are gone. A great loss. A shame to see democracy fail us again.
 
 
I am not sure what "democracy" has to do with this at all (me, I'm a monarchist, though, in case you didn't know).
 
Quote from: LefebvreFan
I'm sorry, but why exactly was Matthew's account deleted? He didn't do anything seriously wrong, certainly not anything ban-worthy. Besides, why did you have to delete his account? Couldn't you have simply blocked him from posting? Forgive me, but this all seems very troubling to me.

 
The reasons why have been given, and there is no way to ban him from posting without banning his wife (I assume they share the same IP), whom everyone I know, including myself, finds sweet and fun.
 

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I have known Chantcd personally, and I can assure you, Vox, and everyone else on FE here that Chantcd is not at all arrogant or disruptive.

 
I make no assertions one way or the other as to whether ChantCD is, in fact, arrogant; I said that there have been many complaints, and there have. 
 
Quote from: Dilexisti
If you invite a bunch (say 800) into your house, you can expect not only to have your furniture move around, but also get coffee, beer stains, cigarette ashes on your carpet. Furthermore, these 800 will not sit down quietly but will be disruptive, argumentative, and many will be hotheaded. If you can't tolerate that why bother to have an open house. Keep your door close and invite only those who agree with your views. The problem is, FE's doors are wide open and anybody and his brother can get in. That's when free-for-all stars.

 
The ban has nothing to do with his agreeing or not with my views. If that were the case, a lot of people wouldn't have been able to post here much at all. FE's doors aren't "wide open"; there is a Rules and FAQ page that outlines what this forum is for and what sort of tone is desired. Some things won't be tolerated (for ex. misogyny, for which another poster was recently deleted), and things that interfere with the desired tone, make too many posters angry, disrupt the sense of "community" I want here, etc., I have to let go of.

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Matthew did not sneak back in. He couldn't get back in with his ChantCD ID, so he had to use another ID. It wasn't a disguise. He identified himself. All he wanted to know is why was he booted so abruptly without any ceremony or explanation?

 
He could have asked why in email (and in fact did). He also felt the need to ask here, in public, thereby inviting a public response which I'd rather have avoided. As to why there was no "ceremony or explanation," I didn't see the need for any. I tend to have "issues" with personal confrontation anyway. That's just how I am, sad to say.

Quote from: Dilexisti
At least that was a courtesy extended to me when Sophia (one moderator) gave me a warning, "You won't last long here with that kind of attitude." I realized my mistake and apologized. To some extent I extended my latitude. Speaking of moderators, I remember sometime ago, each moderator was identified. Now you don't who they are. Secret police?
 
 
Yes, the moderators are the Secret Police, working in cahoots with the CIA and the Mossad. They have really cool double-naught spy equipment, too. But mods can be known by clicking on the mod list. 
 

Quote from: Quo Vadis Petre
Now that's a question I have. Was Matthew given a warning about his "arrogant, disruptive attitude and tone" in his posts?

 
See above. Things had come up in threads, so he had to have been aware there was a problem without my personally saying anything to him.

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liliaagri
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« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2007, 01:46:PM »

Quote from: Daniel
 

 I feel that Matthew was always accurate and charitable and am sorry to see him go as I feel I learned from his posts.

 

Well, he was writing about not watching television in a thread that had nothing to do with television, which could hardly described as accurate, and he completely ignored CaroleK's polite requests to stay on the subject, which was not in the least charitable of him, especially when it became clear that she was upset by his behavior. I don't know how many people were following the thread from the beginning, but it was almost astounding how obnoxious he was being.

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Jo
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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2007, 04:40:AM »

If anyone was being uncharitable, it was not Matthew. I saw no arrogance on his part - only his attempt to explain his beliefs concerning some issues, and not at all in a pompous way. I think CaroleK became rather defense and, as a result, her posts towards Matthew were quite uncharitable. I am shocked that ChantCD's account was deleted. I have always thought Matthew's posts at FE were one of the most courteous and charitable.

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VoxClamantis
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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2007, 10:51:AM »

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If anyone was being uncharitable, it was not Matthew. I saw no arrogance on his part - only his attempt to explain his beliefs concerning some issues, and not at all in a pompous way. I think CaroleK became rather defense and, as a result, her posts towards Matthew were quite uncharitable. I am shocked that ChantCD's account was deleted. I have always thought Matthew's posts at FE were one of the most courteous and charitable.

 

He wasn't banned because of that thread, Jo.

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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2007, 10:52:AM »

Quote from: Jo
If anyone was being uncharitable, it was not Matthew. I saw no arrogance on his part - only his attempt to explain his beliefs concerning some issues, and not at all in a pompous way.

Look closer. ChantCD has always looked down on FE's who do not share his exact views regarding the Faith.

He's also a Know-It-All. If you know something about the Faith, he wrote the Bible. If you have the cold, he has the flu.
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curious_catholic
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« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2007, 01:54:PM »

Quote from: Jo

If anyone was being uncharitable, it was not Matthew. I saw no arrogance on his part - only his attempt to explain his beliefs concerning some issues, and not at all in a pompous way. I think CaroleK became rather defense and, as a result, her posts towards Matthew were quite uncharitable. I am shocked that ChantCD's account was deleted. I have always thought Matthew's posts at FE were one of the most courteous and charitable.


That thread had nothing to do with his beliefs, he totally took the thread out of topic.  The charitable thing to do would have been to leave the topic.  It was obvious that CaroleK was upset and anyone with an ounce of common sense would have shut up and walked away.  He was patronizing her and that was obvious.  

Now, Vox said it had nothing to do with that thread.

Trash talking the forum on another forum is a net faux pas as well.  What makes me laugh is how people can trash talk FE somewhere else but still be members here...dorks.

I'm sorry but if Matthew is the poster boy for Trad Catholicism, then I don't want anything to do with it...good thing he isn't.
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CaroleK
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« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2007, 02:16:PM »

Quote from: VoxClamantis

Quote from: Jo
If anyone was being uncharitable, it was not Matthew. I saw no arrogance on his part - only his attempt to explain his beliefs concerning some issues, and not at all in a pompous way. I think CaroleK became rather defense and, as a result, her posts towards Matthew were quite uncharitable. I am shocked that ChantCD's account was deleted. I have always thought Matthew's posts at FE were one of the most courteous and charitable.

He wasn't banned because of that thread, Jo.


How in the heck did I get dragged into this?  Ummm ... considering the fact that Vox said in her first post on this thread:

Quote from: VoxClamantis

Well, if you have to ask publicly, I will answer publicly: the account was deleted because I got too many complaints about your apparent attitude and tone. It was found to be arrogant and disruptive (and in case you're wondering, no the complaints weren't only from women, and none were from CaroleK).


Why am I being brought into it?  I'll thank you all to not drag me into this and talking about me as if I'm not here or cannot read what you're writing. Either as an example for those who agree with Vox's decision or as the whipping boy for those who don't.
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curious_catholic
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« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2007, 03:13:PM »

Quote from: CaroleK
Why am I being brought into it?  I'll thank you all to not drag me into this and talking about me as if I'm not here or cannot read what you're writing. Either as an example for those who agree with Vox's decision or as the whipping boy for those who don't.

Isn't that obvious?  I believe it was the last thread he was involved in where things went awry so somebody was bound to bring it up, and I don't think anybody is talking about you here as if you cannot read what we're writing. 
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CaroleK
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« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2007, 03:48:PM »

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Why am I being brought into it?  I'll thank you all to not drag me into this and talking about me as if I'm not here or cannot read what you're writing. Either as an example for those who agree with Vox's decision or as the whipping boy for those who don't.
 

Such rancor... Why? Nobody ever did anything to you, and yet every other post is filled with cutting words towards someone. Please stop it; it makes being on the forum more unpleasant for everyone, yourself included.

When you see a post that you don't like, try to do a couple of things... take a few deep breaths and calm down. Then, give the person the benefit of the doubt in any way that you can. This includes trying to interpret their remarks in a similarly non-aggressive manner. We all tend to be more blunt online, some people have big problems in this department. Don't read anything into somebody's post that isn't clearly spelled out -disagreements and upset are sure to follow.


May I suggest to you that you take your own advice.  That wasn't rancor.  I was genuinely curious as to how I ended up being brought into a conversation about someone else being removed from the forum when the forum owner already told everyone that it had nothing whatever to do with me (as in I didn't do any complaining about anyone or anything) and nothing to do with the thread everyone is harping on.

I come back to the board after a day off to find that I'm being talked about.  I asked people to stop.  That's not rancor.  In fact I was being quite polite.

So maybe you should stop read into my post something that isn't clearly spelled out.
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ErinIsNice
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« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2007, 04:00:PM »

All he's doing in his forum is going on and on about why Vox is wrong  about this that and the other.  He's really obsessed    
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