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spasiisochrani
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2007, 10:30:AM »

I wouldn't get into SSPX issues with the pastor.  The only thing you need to make clear to him is that your previous chrismation/confirmation is valid.  The Catholic Church teaches that confirmation/chrismation can only be received once, and it would be sacrilegious to attempt to repeat it.  I really would urge you to contact a Byzantine Catholic pastor, because he will understand the issues involved.  You should be received into the Catholic Church by a profession of faith alone, according to Catholic canon law.  Here is the relevant citation from the Code of Canons for the Eastern Churches:

 

Canon 897

A member of the Christian faithful of an Eastern non-Catholic Church is to be received into the Catholic Church with only the profession of the Catholic faith, after doctrinal and spiritual preparation according to each one's condition.

It actually might be less of a hassle if the Ukrainian Catholic pastor receives you into the Church.  If he does, however, I do not think that you will belong to his jurisdiction canonically.  A convert from the Greek Orthodox Church becomes a Byzantine Catholic canonically, but, because there is no Hellenic Greek Catholic jurisdiction in the U. S., I believe that you would be a subject of the local Latin bishop, as are, e.g., the Italo-Greek Byzantine Catholics in New York:

 

http://byzantines.net/ourladyofgrace/

 

Of course, after your reception into the Catholic Church, you are free to attend any Catholic church of any rite.  However, it may be important for canonical reasons to know that you are a Byzantine Catholic.

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Rosamund
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2007, 12:36:PM »

He could officially switch to a different rite if he wanted to, though, couldn't he?
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NewCatholic
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2007, 12:48:PM »

LOL at Paul, me dearie, if what you stated is true

 

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Heres some advice: no obedience is due to NovusOrdo bishops.

 

I'd might as well stay Greek Orthodox!   

 

As for everyone else, Thank You!! from the bottom of my heart. This is sensible, good advice which I shall take indeed.

 

May you have:
A world of wishes at your command.
God and his angels close to hand.
Friends and family their love impart,
and Irish blessings in your heart!

 

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spasiisochrani
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2007, 12:53:PM »

Quote from: Rosamund
He could officially switch to a different rite if he wanted to, though, couldn't he?

Yes, she could apply to the Apostolic Pro-Nuncio for a transfer to the Latin Church.  I have no doubt that it would be granted.

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Paul146
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2007, 12:55:PM »

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LOL at Paul, me dearie, if what you stated is true

 

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Heres some advice: no obedience is due to NovusOrdo bishops.

 

I'd might as well stay Greek Orthodox!   

 

 

Its better to attend an EO Divine Liturgy than most NO Masses. This is real real sad but most EOers are closer to Catholicism than NOers are.

 

 

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Alchemillavulgaris
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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2007, 12:31:AM »

I'd hate to be one to burst your bubble, but I doubt that there are real live theologians here in fisheaters.com. However there are tons of 'couch' theologians and frankly more informed than the 'average' theologian. Just take all the advice given thoughtfully, as some is terrific and some not so great. As all things in life, moderation is key; and when in doubt; do nothing.

 

Welcome Home!

 

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« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2007, 10:46:PM »

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Quote from: Paul146
Heres some advice: no obedience is due to NovusOrdo bishops.

This idea is on the brink of schism



I'll go further. That is a 'schismatic attitude'.

Obedience is due when one is morally able to whatever legitimate superiors one has.

So if your Novus Ordo bishop asked you for money, you'd give it to him?  If he asked you to vote for the liberal candidate of his choice, would you? 

 

What is this "obedience" you so readily give to bishops in reference to?  I thought the cult of personality was something the Communists did.  I thought the Catholic Church had a magisterial structure whereby obedience was owed to its documented doctrine, not to the preferences of its presbyturs. -- Albert Cipriani

 

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