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Author Topic: Churches back plan to unite under Pope  (Read 5217 times)
GrumpyTroll
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« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2007, 03:18:PM »

And I thought the situation in the Catholic Church was complicated …
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« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2007, 07:42:PM »

Quote from: PeteC
Quote from: francis
OK...

Evangelicals:will ordain women, won't ordain gays
Anglo-Catholics:won't ordain women, will ordain gays
Liberals:will ordain both
"conservatives" won't ordain either.

So some of the fourth group may consider joining us...but we knew that already.

Not exactly, it is not that all Evangelicals ordain women and not that all Anglo-Catholics ordain gays.

Majority of the Anglican communion: will ordain women. Some only to the dioconate. Some to the priesthood. Those who frown on it are either highly Biblical (like Sydney) or base there arguments on tradition and communion with the Orthodox and Rome a la the "Branch Theory. The latter is the Anglo Catholic wing "Forward in Faith".
Likewise there are Anglo-Catholics (in England the "Affirming Catholics") who will accept the ordination of women while simultaneously aknowleging the need for Apostolic Succesion, the Mass etc., etc.
Anglo-Catholics should be distinguished from merely "High Church" people. Though technically they fall under that wing themselves, "High Church" today is sometimes used ot mean "How high up the candle am I?" In other words, ritual has gained acceptance but sometimes  without the accompanying theology.
Generally the groups like FiF tend to be against homosexuality also though some say there is closet homsexuality among them. Likewise the Aff-Cath tend to be pro-ordination of gays though you will also find those opposed.








Thanks for the information, Pete. I knew I was over-simplifying! Actually, the Anglican church I attended in Jakarta was staffed by pastors from Sydney. I knew they were highly unlikely to accept active gays as priests, but the issue of ordaining women had not yet become a "hot" one for the parish by the time I left. I knew that they were committed to working with a variety of evangelical sects within Indonesia, some with women pastors, which might have softened them up on the idea of female priests. But I never found out for sure.
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