U of Minn sticks it to Catholics

[AdoramusTeChriste]

Last I heard, Donahue wasn't a kid. Everything I have ever seen by him was written for adults. Sometimes a crass point is a point well made. If nothing else, it garners attention from those who would ignore more delicate terms.

[mojomama]

I understand your point, ATC, but in the context of one who claims to speak for a religion based on the Gospels, I find Donohue grossly unacceptable.  If you get out into the rest of the world and listen to people talk about why they have no use for the Church, it's his conduct and attitudes that are given as prime citations for what others perceive as Catholic hypocrisy and bigotry.  As far as I'm concerned, he's an embarassment. 

 

But the thread was about the play.  And other than the title of the play, I still couldn't tell you what it's about.

[Sophia]

None of the above quotes could possibly be construed as "hatred."  The fact that he doesn't like the anti-Catholic sewage that Hollywood feeds us, doesn't like gay activists, and doesn't like hypocrites (referring to the Martin Luther King quote) doesn't speak of any kind of hate, except the hatred of sin, perversion, blasphemy, and ugliness.

 

I'm sure, moreover, that he'd never say anything crass like "erection" or "oral sex" in front of children.  In that way he is quite the contrast from the usual group of people he opposes, who want to make it mandatory to teach such things to little children before they've reached the age of reason.  His style may be a bit aggressive, but he has a whole apathetic nation to reach with his message.  He could never hold a candle to the foul crudity that one hears from the majority of other "spokespeople" or entertainers.  If that sort of thing bothers you, then you must not have a TV in your home.

 

 If you get out into the rest of the world and listen to people talk about why they have no use for the Church, it's his conduct and attitudes that are given as prime citations for what others perceive as Catholic hypocrisy and bigotry. 

 

Maybe it's because what he says touches a nerve of guilt.   They couldn't define "hypocrisy" or "bigotry" if their lives depended on it.  They live an irony.

[mojomama]

Actually, Sophia, I was talking about some of my friends. And they are not hateful, nor are they bigots, thank you.  But they look at stuff like what Donohue puts out, and they wonder why on earth I would want to be a Catholic.  And I have no defense for him. So what do I say "The Church isnt really like that?" "It is really a beautiful religion, very loving?"  A pretty tough sell with help like the Catholic League provides.

[Sophia]

A pretty tough sell with help like the Catholic League provides.

 

Somehow, I have a hard time believing that.   If all it takes is to state that homosexual acts are sinful in order to be labeled "hateful," then I doubt that anything the Catholic League did would please them.

[InquisitorGeneralis]

Just out of curiosity, am I the only one here who actually attended the University of Minnesota?

[mojomama]

My husband did, both undergrad and grad school.  

Sophia, I don't know what kind of assumptions you're making, and I really don't care whether you believe me or not, but out in the real world, there are a lot of people who think that Catholics are small-minded, nasty people.  The Donohues of the world lend credence to that view.  I want no part of it.

[Sophia]

but out in the real world, there are a lot of people who think that Catholics are small-minded, nasty people. 

 

That's why so many of them have been martyred; for standing up on behalf of Truth in the real world.   

[mojomama]

He sheds a whole lot more heat than light.  This is a perfect example.  Spooky posted, without attribution, one of his pieces.  The piece attacks a play.  Other than the title of the play, we don't know anything about it (and for all I can tell from the article, neither does Donohue)  The piece has gotten its desired reaction from some people, who are immediately outraged that the U of Mn would show the play - and apparently further outraged that the U would not give Donohue a forum.  The things we don't know, however are legion:

1.  What exactly is the subject matter?  What is the message?
2.  Who is on the discussion panel?
3.  On what basis were the panelists chosen?
4.  Are Catholics precluded from attending the discussion?
5.  Are any Catholics planning to attend and participate?
6. How does the Theatre Department select its season?
7.  Has the U presented other pieces which might similarly offend a different group?
8.  If so, can the above-listed questions be applied to that piece or those pieces? To what end?

In evaluating the University's plan and making a determination whether the U is really "sticking it to Catholics" the answers to those questions would be useful information. All Donohue has really said is "The sky is falling!"  

[Dilexisti]

Thanks.  Don't bother.  I have no respect for Donohue, and find him to be an embarassment.  He does not speak for the Church.

At least he is doing something -- defending the Catholic faith.

 

What ARE you doing about it, other than bashing a fellow Catholic for personal reasons?