Pope subverts Vatican II, historian charges

[VoxClamantis]

From Catholic World News:

 

Pope subverts Vatican II, historian charges
 

Mar. 16, 2007 (CWNews.com) - A noted Italian Church historian has denounced the opposition of the Catholic Church to the legal recognition of civil unions, and blasted Pope Benedict XVI (bio - news), saying that the current Pontiff is "worse than Pius XII."

Giusepp Alberigo told the newspaper Corriere della Sera that Pope Benedict is afraid of modernity, "like a child who during the night is afraid of a ghost-- when in reality there is no ghost, but only a shadow."

Aww, bless your heart, S. Alberigo.

In an article summarizing reactions to the release of the Pope’s apostolic exhortation on the Eucharist, Sacramentum Caritatis, the historian charged that the Pontiff is trying to roll back the progress initiated by Vatican II. "It is a restoration that cancels a century of Church history," he said. Alberigo argued that "it is difficult to find cohesion between magisterial documents and the spirit of the Second Vatican Council."

Um, it sure is!

[sictransit]

I am currently reading Alberigo's History of Vatican II and he likes to take a lot of liberty with the facts of the council. It is a relief when you come across some of the more evenhanded sections. Alberigo is revered at my school, which is incredibly liberal.
 

[paullong]

 the historian charged that the Pontiff is trying to roll back the progress initiated by Vatican II. "It is a restoration that cancels a century of Church history,"

 

Oh... A century?

[Quo_Vadis_Petre]

Apparently, the historian doesn't know how to count.

[Daniel]

I think he can count reasonably well. The Church was rotten at it's (human) core long before 1960. That's just the year it surfaced an we got our first wiff of it. A century is probably quite a bit light on if anything.

[InquisitorGeneralis]

Apparently, the historian doesn't know how to count.

As I always say, there are three kinds of people: those who can count and those who can't.

[McMaster]

I think he can count reasonably well. The Church was rotten at it's (human) core long before 1960. That's just the year it surfaced an we got our first wiff of it. A century is probably quite a bit light on if anything.

Quite light! Ever read about some of the bad popes and other bad churchmen from centuries long past? Had the Church depended on human excellence, it would have died long ago. But recall that, a mere one century ago, the ages of bad popes were long gone, and St. Pius X was Pope.

Blessings,

Don McMaster

[McMaster]

Alberigo argued that "it is difficult to find cohesion between magisterial documents and the spirit of the Second Vatican Council."

What he didn't mention is that those magisterial documents include not only ones written by Pope Benedict XVI, but the documents of Vatican II. The bogus "spirit of the Second Vatican Council," which would demand that the Church bow down to prevailing winds of error, sin, and idiocy, has always been a figment of disordered imaginations.

Blessings,

Don McMaster

[Daniel]

Quite light! Ever read about some of the bad popes and other bad churchmen from centuries long past? Had the Church depended on human excellence, it would have died long ago. But recall that, a mere one century ago, the ages of bad popes were long gone, and St. Pius X was Pope.

Sorry it's not obvious enough for the forum genius to notice but the original post is clearly dealing with relatively recent history. If the Church relied on arrogant piss taking fools it would have died even earlier.

[aquinas138]

Quite light! Ever read about some of the bad popes and other bad churchmen from centuries long past? Had the Church depended on human excellence, it would have died long ago. But recall that, a mere one century ago, the ages of bad popes were long gone, and St. Pius X was Pope.

Sorry it's not obvious enough for the forum genius to notice but the original post is clearly dealing with relatively recent history. If the Church relied on arrogant piss taking fools it would have died even earlier.

Italics fixed.