"opt out clause"?

[Mornac]

Pope aims to bring back Latin Mass

The Pope is continuing moves to reintroduce the traditional Latin Mass. By Shelley Marsden - 14/05/07

Pope Benedict is supposed to have already signed an ‘indult’, or given permission, that allows Roman Catholics the world over to celebrate the Tridentine Rite at any time they so wish. At present permission must be given by a diocesan bishop.

If the Tridentine Rite makes a comeback it will mean a triumph for traditionalists, and underlines.  There is dissent amongst German bishops about the move however, according to Vatican sources.

The Pope, in a private audience with a leading traditionalist, Alice von Hildebrand, expressed his intention to publish permission to celebrate the 16th-century rite this month. This was expected before now, but the delay is said to be down to objections by German bishops that were sent to the Pope in the form of a seven-page document.

When the Rite is published, it is expected that a prayer which calls for the conversion of Jews, will be omitted, something which leaders of German and British councils of Christians and Jews have already rallied against. The document is also expected to include an "opt-out clause" that disallows the Rite being practiced at local churches, pleasing German and modernist French bishops.

 http://www.theirishworld.com/article.asp?SubSection_Id=2&Article_Id=2739

 

[Tradglad]

 

"When the Rite is published, it is expected that a prayer which calls for the conversion of Jews, will be omitted, something which leaders of German and British councils of Christians and Jews have already rallied against. The document is also expected to include an "opt-out clause" that disallows the Rite being practiced at local churches, pleasing German and modernist French bishops."
 
what in the name of ........ what does that mean??

[Paul]

what in the name of ........ what does that mean??

Probably one of two things. Either it allows the bishops to forbid priests from saying the traditional Mass (which requires them to act, rather than the current situation where Ecclesia Dei requires permission first), or it allows them to forbid the use of diocesan churches for the Mass, although private celebrations would be allowed.

[Mornac]

Probably one of two things. Either it allows the bishops to forbid priests from saying the traditional Mass (which requires them to act, rather than the current situation where Ecclesia Dei requires permission first)

 

--By all accounts to date - this ain't gonna be the case.

or it allows them to forbid the use of diocesan churches for the Mass, although private celebrations would be allowed.

--More likely.


Of course there's always a third possibility: The Irish World doesn't know its apse from a hole in the ground.

[Vandaler]

The Pope, in a private audience with a leading traditionalist, Alice von Hildebrand, expressed his intention to publish permission to celebrate the 16th-century rite this month. This was expected before now, but the delay is said to be down to objections by German bishops that were sent to the Pope in the form of a seven-page document.

I run a little blog where I commit my speculations on various subject. I'm glad to see the time line expressed in this article perfectly match up to what I had speculated.

Link to the entry

Entire blog below my signature.

[GrumpyTroll]

Why remove the prayer for the Jews? As Saint Bernard of Clairvaux wrote (epistola CCCLXV. ad Henricum Moguntinum Archiepiscopum):

Nunquid incassum constituta est illa universalis oratio Ecclesiae, quae offertur pro perfidis Judaeis a solis ortu usque ad occasum, ut Deus et Dominus auferat velamen de cordibus eorum, ut ad lumen veritatis a suis tenebris eruantur?

Was it instituted in vain, that universal prayer of the Church which is offered for the unfaithful Jews from the rising of the Sun to its setting, so that the Lord God take away the covering from their hearts, and so that they be delivered from their darkness to the light of truth?

[PaxVobiscum]

Every group that calls itself "Christian" prays for the conversion of nonChristians, and some mention Jews specifically.   If you believe that Jesus is the Savior, the only way to salvation, it would be a sin NOT to pray for the conversion of others.

Why are Catholics the ones singled out?

When will Abe Foxman tell all the Christian Zionists how they should pray?

When will Abe Foxman get on the Muslims' case for their "anti-Semitism"?

[Paul]

Why are Catholics the ones singled out?

Because Catholicism's true. The devil doesn't care as much about people converting from Judaism to Protestantism, since both are false.