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« Reply #60 on: December 23, 2008, 06:02:PM » |
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Hey, I like those black SS dress uniforms. I just would wear different insignia. This Hugo Boss is very talented. Wiki says: In the third quarter of 1933, Boss designed black uniforms for Heinrich Himmler's SS, to replace the SA brown shirts. He also designed the Hitler Youth uniforms . Were there actually black soldiers in the SS and German army? Were they from Germanys african colonies? Bob |
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« Reply #61 on: December 23, 2008, 09:47:PM » |
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Were there actually black soldiers in the SS and German army? Were they from Germanys african colonies?
Bob
I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few. This isn't to say that the Third Reich as a whole was tolerant of Africans, but it's rare for a regime to maintain a completely universal agreement or compliance in social doctrine. They might have been drafted, or just thought it was a cool job to have. Or maybe they just liked the uniform.  |
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« Reply #62 on: December 23, 2008, 10:02:PM » |
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This is a painting of a traditional Maltese garment called għonnella (the link is to Wikipedia). It's thoroughly Catholic and looks even weirder than some of the Near Eastern style clothes in those pictures. |
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« Reply #63 on: December 23, 2008, 10:05:PM » |
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A few other comments.... Under such circumstances it comes as no surprise that young Americans look for their own traditions and come up with none whatsoever in their own country. That flag with pretty looking stars and stripes is pretty useless when it comes down to your identity it seems. Speak for yourself. Though being Catholic comes before everything else, I'm proud to be an Indonesian. I'm also proud to be English. And on top of all that, I'm proud to be American. These colors don't run.  My English side of the family has built a strong legacy here in the States for almost four centuries. My mom immigrated from Indonesia and made a good niche for herself here as well. She still has a funny "Engrish" accent, but she's proud to be American too. There is no "traditional American clothing" therefore. Actually, "traditional American style", though rarely seen, is very real. It follows English custom. Some elite honor guards in the 3rd Infantry Regiment of the U.S. Army wear 18th century frocks, powdered wigs, and tricornes. I believe for President Ronald Reagan's first inauguration, he still wore Victorian/Edwardian morning dress. The United States Solicitor General still customarily wears morning dress when arguing in the Supreme Court. I maintain a form of this tradition myself.  |
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« Reply #64 on: December 26, 2008, 07:44:AM » |
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Were there actually black soldiers in the SS and German army? Were they from Germanys african colonies? By the end of the war they accepted anyone in the SS - which was NOT part of the German army. This guy wears the uniform of a small group called 'Freies Arabien' whose members came essentially from the then French Northern Africa. Military speaking they were meaningless. The Germans used them mainly against the French resistance.  That being said, you had some exceptions in the German Army.  Chiang Wei-kuo (Chiang Kai-shek’s son) Not to mention the (150.000) partly Jewish German men who were drafted the normal way. Please note that the tittle of the book is misleading. Those guys had at most one Jewish parent.  |
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« Reply #65 on: January 16, 2009, 05:10:PM » |
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Those clothes are actually quite stylish re-interpretations of "desert wear". I wouldn't wear them in America, but I'd consider it if I was visiting Egypt or Jordan. If you do want to wear them in the West, just throw a crucifix over it as McMaster says to avoid any confusion.   look at the second image(the woman)in my country we all have to dress like that.it is obligatory and we go to prison if we do'nt obey.So people go to church while they are dressed like this woman.But men can wear T shirt and pants,not forced to be like the man's image. I actually like the woman's clothing in that pic...with the exception of wearing the hijab, it looks very modest and even fashionable and would be appropriate for a traditional Catholic young lady to wear. Most of the clothing on that Islamic website don't look particularly "Muslim", just Middle Eastern. Business suits and ties aren't "Catholic" clothing, just modern Western clothing. Actually, I liked some of the coats and jackets on that website; maybe I'll by one myself!  I think it would look fine with jeans or khaki pants. |
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« Reply #66 on: January 16, 2009, 05:37:PM » |
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about head covering...I cover my head even when I have not to(in family or friendly gatherings)because Sts.Cyprian,Augustine,Ambrose etc....said that women(specially virgins)must cover their heads.Saint Jerome went so far as to command consecrated virgins to cover their faces too.I am againts any thing islamic for a catholic.but church fathers loved it when women covered their heads. Could you give the source for the St. Jerome quote? |
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« Reply #67 on: January 17, 2009, 05:41:PM » |
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I would totally wear this jubba: Here's a photo from their latest cataloque:  Perfect. If everybody wore like this, there would be no need to cast eyes down. Was there ever a time when Catholic women wore in this fashion? Ever since when did Muslim women cover the whole body? |
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« Reply #68 on: January 17, 2009, 06:05:PM » |
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Such clothing is repressive and un-Catholic. Modesty is good but not even our Lady worse such clothing. The only time her entire face would have be veiled would maybe be at her own wedding. Other than that face, neck, hands,feet and some hair were definitely visible.
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« Reply #69 on: January 17, 2009, 06:06:PM » |
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Perfect. If everybody wore like this, there would be no need to cast eyes down.
Perhaps there is no need with which to being?
Was there ever a time when Catholic women wore in this fashion?
No.
Ever since when did Muslim women cover the whole body?
It is not done in all Islamic areas. In fact, the Koran is rather liberal in this area. |
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