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Author Topic: Tradition on the march!! We have overcome the misdeeds of and wrongs of 40 years!  (Read 978 times)
Robb
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« on: July 09, 2007, 12:17:AM »

Yesterday, as you all know, the long awaited Moto Proprio was published!  This is one of the most terrific things ever to happen in the course of my life.  It truly shows that the Church is changing her course back on the path to tradition.  Everything is looking up for our glorious cause.  Just look at how our enemies are brought to a state of despair.  This is truly a black day on their ruinous calender.  They caused us so much pain and anguish and made us so despondent over the course of the last 45 yrs.  And now it is their turn to drink from the sorrowful chalice(or should I say sorrowful "cup").  Despite any short-comings in this moto, it stands as the most important and decisive strike in the traditionalists counter revolution.  Oh, how these liberals wail.  If the enemies of God and tradition have not met their Waterloo, then at least they've been temporarily exiled on an Elba. 
 
  We Trads must keep up the fight and put up as much pressure as possible to truly implement this document.  Wherever there are enemies of our cause, wherever there is one hesitant bishop, wherever there is one wayward priest, wherever there are hostile laity, we must bring down the full powers given to us by the Holy Father and the Holy See in our on-going conflict against them.  In the last several decades, these impious souls have shown no mercy
towards us and sought to wipe us out of existence.  Let us now intern deliver unto them the same plight they have scourged us with for many a long year. We must stop reprecussions by these leftist demons.  God has truly given us a flaming sword to light up the whole world on fire for His one and only True Church.  May God help us all and may He defend the Rite.
 
--Bob
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Avalonik
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2007, 12:48:AM »

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Let us now intern


I think you mean, "...in turn..."

Otherwise, I like your style.  "Sorrowful Chalice".  Good one. I like that!
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ggreg
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2007, 05:14:AM »

do you think the 7.7.7 release date is accidental or on purpose (by B16).

Certainly seems to be a message there but I wonder whether it is not the Holy Ghost who is trying to tell us it directly.

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arcadian
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2007, 05:33:AM »

these impious souls have shown no mercy
towards us and sought to wipe us out of existence.  Let us now intern deliver unto them the same plight they have scourged us with for many a long year. We must stop reprecussions by these leftist demons.

This is not a time to gloat, nor is it a time for revenge; it is a time to show these misguided folks what Christian charity is all about. We are all in the same boat, the Holy Church, and we need as many priests, bishops, and lay people on our side as we can get. Many can be won over if we simply follow our Blessed Savior's example. Lets work in a positive fashion to bring our sacred liturgy to as many people as possible, that they may witness what faithful and reverent worship is all about. There is much to be done and the Church and the Holy Father need our prayers and good works, if this is to succeed in rolling back the atrocious "reforms" of the Conciliar Council.  
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Adonais
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2007, 10:05:AM »

Quote from: arcadian
these impious souls have shown no mercy
towards us and sought to wipe us out of existence. Let us now intern deliver unto them the same plight they have scourged us with for many a long year. We must stop reprecussions by these leftist demons.

This is not a time to gloat, nor is it a time for revenge; it is a time to show these misguided folks what Christian charity is all about. We are all in the same boat, the Holy Church, and we need as many priests, bishops, and lay people on our side as we can get. Many can be won over if we simply follow our Blessed Savior's example. Lets work in a positive fashion to bring our sacred liturgy to as many people as possible, that they may witness what faithful and reverent worship is all about. There is much to be done and the Church and the Holy Father need our prayers and good works, if this is to succeed in rolling back the atrocious "reforms" of the Conciliar Council.

Thank you.  That's absolutely right.  We're going to be under a microscope for a time.  We certainly need to make ourselves heard, but let us do so with meekness, humility, and above all, patience.  The modernist trope is that Trads are all rabid extremists. We can call that bluff.  The more we bless them while they curse us, the more their true colors will become apparent; it is they who will prove the real extremists.  We may indeed see divisions in the church because of the Motu Proprio, but I predict it will be the modernists who will leave, as they begin to realize they're not in the Church they thought they were.

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Deidre
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2007, 10:08:AM »

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these impious souls have shown no mercy
towards us and sought to wipe us out of existence. Let us now intern deliver unto them the same plight they have scourged us with for many a long year.



I don't get this part.

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StephenF
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2007, 10:09:AM »

Robb, please refrain from using Napoleonic metaphors.  I am very fond of the emperor...And you sound TRIUMPHUL  which is exactly what the Libs have always thought of us.  Let's employ their tactics of double speak and lip service.  We've got an official document now, we don't have to gloat but I sure understand what you mean. By the way, did you know that Napoleon's will begins, "I die in the Roman, Apostolic religion to which I was born"... 

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Dilexisti
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2007, 12:00:PM »

Quote from: Deidre

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these impious souls have shown no mercy
towards us and sought to wipe us out of existence. Let us now intern deliver unto them the same plight they have scourged us with for many a long year.


I don't get this part.


An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth?  Our Lord never sanctioned this.  What we have been subjected to was and is part and parcel of the chastisement that is due to mankind's unfaithfulness, especially from those who are supposed to be God's chosen people, the Catholics. We traditionalists are not blameless and without fault, as we mistakenly believe.  

Now that the MP has been released and has the Pope's mandate, we must pray for our priests, both traditional and N.O.:

"My dear Jesus, Thou desirest that we pray to the Lord of the harvest that He send zealous laborers into His field.  Deign to raise up in Thy Church, and especially in this diocese, numerous and holy priests who, taking Thy Divine Heart as their Model, will, in the exercise of their holy priesthood, promote the glory of Thy heavenly Father and the salvation of those souls whom thou has redeemed with Thy Precious Blood.  Give us truly holy priests who, inflamed with the fire of Thy divine Love, see nothing but Thy greater glory and the salvation of souls.  

"O Mary, Queen of the clergy, pray for us, obtain for us a number of holy priests.  O holy Queen, obtain the grace that many priests will turn their hearts and minds to serve God in the Holy Sacrifice of the Immemorial Mass, the Mass of all ages.  Amen."

Holy Mary, Mother of the Holy Eucharist, ora pro nobis.
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DominusTecum
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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2007, 12:23:PM »

Robb isn't very clear on what he means by that passage, and as it's written I think it's pretty good. Obviously, we don't want to kill all the modernists and liberals, and don't want to cause them bodily harm, we want their conversions. HOWEVER, it is important to remember that they are working (unwittingly, most of them) for the evil one, and not for Christ. We cannot let a false "charity" impede orthodox doctrine and practice. This is how the revolution was allowed to get a foothold in the Church in the first place. If your liberal companion at a Novus Ordo Missae utters a heresy, call him on it and set forth the Catholic position.

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Robb
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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2007, 03:54:PM »

Thanks to all for your replies, I would to assure everyone that I was only speaking metaphorically in much of my language.  I meant no harm physically nor spiritually towards any misguided modernest liberals.  I only meant that we should use this Papal decree to force those bishops and priests who are at best reluctant and at worst hostile to our cause to allow us greater freedom for the TLM.  For many decades, the left-wing radical elements in our religion have fought tooth and nail to suppress any resurgence of tradition from the top to bottom!  Every last vestige of Catholic thought and practice had to be purged of the sacred and almost completely secularized.  While I don't blame every N.O. bishop any priest for these most unfortunate events, which had a negative effect on most of Church life for the past forty years.  There were many bishops and priests who tried to preserve tradition in the N.O. establishment.  There are many more today, and they are our true friends, and I wish only fruitful collaboration with them to build up our faith.  I never intended my comments as an attack on the whole Church of present day outside the traditionalist movement.  My venom was only directed at the true modernist and liberals in our midst. 

As for being triumphalistic, why shouldn't we Catholics be?  The New Testament is full of many examples of Christ and the Apostles boldly proclaiming the Truth in such a way!  There is NOTHING wrong with triumphalism!  We shan't give in to liberal notion that we should hide the truth for fear of offending others!  And btw, have not the modernists shown to be the most triumphal of all over the past decades as they have proclaimed, proudly, the complete destruction of the old church, and the creation of a new one?

--Bob

P.S.

In my remarks about Waterloo, I meant no disrespect towards Napoleon.  I was just using a good military analogy to our present situation.
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