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Author Topic: For the women ... Do you ever worry about your daughters?  (Read 14829 times)
Jodie
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« Reply #210 on: November 28, 2007, 07:35:AM »

Perhaps you should encourage your daughters to pretend to be nuns instead? Maybe then they will stop imitating priests--or Eucharistic ministers! I used to watch a television program called The Flying Nun as a young girl. For me it prompted a curiosity about religious life. We do need to start building up good traditional convents, though. It appears there are a few, scattered here and there. Really, I would advise families to present the option of religious life to their daughters. It is the best option, and girls are rarely encouraged to consider it.
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CaroleK
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« Reply #211 on: November 28, 2007, 08:28:AM »

Quote from: CruxFidelis

I guess I would like to say in response to the original topic that I'm glad I met a level-headed trad girl. She's not like the raging anti-authority fem-Nazis like we sometimes find on this forum. Good day. I'm just worried about my future sons; it might be hard for them to find a trad girl that is not always whining to wear spaghetti straps or complaining about doing that which is "barely legal" in regards to doctrine. I guess I side with Bishop Williamson on this one: in matters of faith and doctrine men are the leaders, not the women, that is why we men give the guidance. Men are rational, women are emotional.


"Fem-Nazis" Huh? Here?  On this forum?  I think you need to get out in the world and see what a radical feminist really is.  You'd be amazed at the difference between a real radical feminist and the women  here.  Just because we don't buy into the "ideas aren't for girls" mentality doesn't mean we are feminists (let alone radical feminists).
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CaroleK
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« Reply #212 on: November 28, 2007, 08:33:AM »

Regarding girls pretending to be a priest or altar server.  It really isn't a huge issue.  Calmly and quietly explain that men are priests and altar servers.  Then realize that this type of play acting at young ages is nothing more than acting out that which they see, with no real thought given to the sex-specific roles.  Young children just don't think that way.  A young girl who pretends to be a priest is not destined to grow up to be a modernist heretic who supports women's ordination.  She's just a young child without the experience and knowledge to understand the differences.

Use these moments as gentle teaching moments and eventually she'll stop pretending to be a priest.  It isn't that she wants to be a priest.  It is that she's acting out what she sees.

My dad was a police officer.  The moment he came home from work I would put on his hat and boots, strut around the house and say that I was a "police man."  Was I a man?  Nope.  Was I really trying to be a man?  Nope.  I was just imitating what I saw.

It doesn't have to mean anything.  It doesn't indicate anything.  It is an opportunity to teach our children, but it isn't something to worry about.

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Monica
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« Reply #213 on: November 28, 2007, 12:38:PM »

Mine realizes that men are priests, that's not a problem. Her favorite saint was a nun and she often dresses up as one.  When we talked about it at bedtime she told me she was concerned that the teddy bears couldn't go to mass and receive communion (no teddy bears allowed in church).  Teachable moments always seem to occur at the end of the day when I'm tired, but I do my best.
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TheTalentedMisterReid
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« Reply #214 on: November 29, 2007, 12:57:PM »

Quote from: CruxFidelis

I guess I would like to say in response to the original topic that I'm glad I met a level-headed trad girl. She's not like the raging anti-authority fem-Nazis like we sometimes find on this forum. Good day. I'm just worried about my future sons; it might be hard for them to find a trad girl that is not always whining to wear spaghetti straps or complaining about doing that which is "barely legal" in regards to doctrine. I guess I side with Bishop Williamson on this one: in matters of faith and doctrine men are the leaders, not the women, that is why we men give the guidance. Men are rational, women are emotional.


That's the funniest thing I have read on this forum, tongue-in-cheek or not.
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diotima
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« Reply #215 on: January 04, 2008, 03:08:PM »

Quote from: Sophia
I couldn't speak for Carole, Stevus, but some of the qualities I would want for my daughters (who are not close yet to marriageable age) would be:

- someone with a stable job or who at least knows what he wants to do and is working towards that,

-someone who knows the true meaning of headship over his family and who will not treat his wife like a child, but as his own flesh and blood.  He will view his wife as his helpmate and not his servant, and as a person who has real desires and needs apart from his own.

-someone who is secure enough in his own masculinity that he doesn't feel the need to put others down, especially women, and those weaker than him,

-someone who loves children, and isn't afraid to be an affectionate father toward his own, 

-someone who is not above picking up the slack in the household work when his wife is unable to keep up.  He will not view changing a diaper to be an affront to his masculinity, nor will he sit on his rear pontificating online while the roof needs to be patched, or the cars fixed.

-above all, he will have a strong faith, and will not dump his job to educate his children on his wife's shoulders alone.

That's all a tall order, I know, but naturally I want the best for my children.


sounds like the bare minimum to expect in a spouse to me - NOT a tall order. And I still have issues about that "headship" things - reeks too much of being the boss. Whoever would want any OTHER kind of man?
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TheTalentedMisterReid
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« Reply #216 on: January 05, 2008, 07:07:PM »

Let's translate this so that we evil young male "Trads" who live in our parents' basements and criticize women all day on internet fora understand:

(Disclaimer: Not to be taken too seriously)

Originally Posted by Sophia:
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I couldn't speak for Carole, Stevus, but some of the qualities I would want for my daughters (who are not close yet to marriageable age) would be:

- someone with a stable job or who at least knows what he wants to do and is working towards that,

I want a rich guy.

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-someone who knows the true meaning of headship over his family and who will not treat his wife like a child, but as his own flesh and blood.  He will view his wife as his helpmate and not his servant, and as a person who has real desires and needs apart from his own.

Someone who will look like a dominant manly figure to the outside world, but in the household the wife pulls the reins.

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-someone who is secure enough in his own masculinity that he doesn't feel the need to put others down, especially women, and those weaker than him,

See above.

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-someone who loves children, and isn't afraid to be an affectionate father toward his own,

A man who will do the "mothering" when the wife isn't in the mood.

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-someone who is not above picking up the slack in the household work when his wife is unable to keep up.  He will not view changing a diaper to be an affront to his masculinity, nor will he sit on his rear pontificating online while the roof needs to be patched, or the cars fixed.

A man who will do the wife's work around the house, his own house work, and his full-time+ job, while the wife complains about how brutal the first of those three are, even though she doesn't have an outside job at all.

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-above all, he will have a strong faith, and will not dump his job to educate his children on his wife's shoulders alone.

In conclusion, the man will do every task with regard to house work and child-rearing, and not complain about it, and look manly while he does it, and appear to be "in charge" while out in public, and find additional time to "be holy" and do what it takes (say, working 60 hours a week) to maintain a well-paying job.

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That's all a tall order, I know, but naturally I want the best for my children.

Let's hope they choose the religious life.

Addendum by diotima:
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Sounds like the bare minimum to expect in a spouse to me - NOT a tall order.

In addition to the above, I want my man to be at least 6'0 tall, have a full and thick head of hair (not balding nor any signs of it), a defined jawline, a chiseled torso and broad shoulders.
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angelofmercy
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« Reply #217 on: November 03, 2008, 08:35:AM »

marry your daughter to Jesus.then according to saint Jerome you will be mother in law of God.

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SouthernCatholic
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« Reply #218 on: November 06, 2008, 09:15:AM »

Quote from: angelofmercy

marry your daughter to Jesus.then according to saint Jerome you will be mother in law of God.


What you refer to is a vocation to the religious life.  That is something I have not the power to confer upon my daughter.  She is either called to life as a religious by God or she is not.  It isn't up to me to "marry" my daughter to anyone.  Instead I pray for her discernment of her vocation and for her future spouse (should she be called to the vocation of marriage).
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