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donumabdeo
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« Reply #140 on: November 20, 2007, 10:00:AM »

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And where does Christ's Incarnation come in this? Is Christ not infinite? Human nature is finite, yes, but sanctifying grace is infinite and both men and women both being human can obtain it from God. Men and women have the same nature. Their accidentals are different though just as every man's are.

I am unable to answer your question, for I do not comprehend the Incarnation.  I do know that he assumed the nature of man rather than woman.  The differences in man and woman determine that one is overall a creature of higher goodness.  The highest good of the human nature is the intellect, and the highest faculty of the intellect is reason.  It makes me sick when women try to equalize themselves with man.

edit: One thing that must be understood by you all: a lower good does not indicate a less perfect good.   The angels in heaven are all perfect but there is a hierarchy of angels.
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CaroleK
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« Reply #141 on: November 20, 2007, 10:03:AM »

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I am unable to answer your question, for I do not comprehend the Incarnation.  I do know that he assumed the nature of man rather than woman.  The differences in man and woman determine that one is overall a creature of higher goodness.  The highest good of the human nature is the intellect, and the highest faculty of the intellect is reason.  It makes me sick when women try to equalize themselves with man.

I can see how it could make someone sick to see a woman try to equal your intellect.  In so many cases it would be an instance of dumbing oneself down to the lowest common denominator.  That would indeed be sickening.

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ErinIsNotNice
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« Reply #142 on: November 20, 2007, 10:35:AM »

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The differences in man and woman determine that one is overall a creature of higher goodness.  The highest good of the human nature is the intellect, and the highest faculty of the intellect is reason.  It makes me sick when women try to equalize themselves with man.

Would you say it is a greater crime to murder a man than a woman?  You sound like the people in India who abort (or kill after birth) baby girls because they are less valuable than boys.
Maybe converting to Islam would be a better fit for you.
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donumabdeo
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« Reply #143 on: November 20, 2007, 11:44:AM »

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Would you say it is a greater crime to murder a man than a woman?

 It's a graver matter to kill a woman than a man because a woman is more defenseless and it is not her place to involve herself in combat.  The situation is similar to the murder of children.
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Catholicmilkman
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« Reply #144 on: November 20, 2007, 01:18:PM »

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It's a graver matter to kill a woman than a man because a woman is more defenseless and it is not her place to involve herself in combat.  The situation is similar to the murder of children.
Donum, you can't believe this, can you? Both men and women have souls the human soul has no parts, that is, it is spiritual so how can they be inequal? Honestly I think you need to stop right here and go to your traditional priest or another priest and get your head examined immediately, your ideas are far from Catholic  and natural orthodoxy. Haven't you ever heard St. Paul's words "there is neither..male or female"?
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Catholicmilkman
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« Reply #145 on: November 20, 2007, 01:37:PM »

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And where does Christ's Incarnation come in this? Is Christ not infinite? Human nature is finite, yes, but sanctifying grace is infinite and both men and women both being human can obtain it from God. Men and women have the same nature. Their accidentals are different though just as every man's are.

I am unable to answer your question, for I do not comprehend the Incarnation.
Who does completely? That is why it's a Mystery.

 
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I do know that he assumed the nature of man rather than woman.
No, He assumed human nature and the male gender. He assumed the nature of women as well for women are also human though he was a man and not a woman. As St. John wrote "And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us".

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The differences in man and woman determine that one is overall a creature of higher goodness. The highest good of the human nature is the intellect, and the highest faculty of the intellect is reason. It makes me sick when women try to equalize themselves with man.
This is basic Catholic doctrine here: there is no essential difference between men and women. Both men and women have intellects if both didn't then both could not be Catholic nor assent to the Catholic faith.

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edit: One thing that must be understood by you all: a lower good does not indicate a less perfect good.   The angels in heaven are all perfect but there is a hierarchy of angels.
Heirarchy denotes order not power nor nature. Just because nature has a heirarchy does not mean that one creature is lesser than another of the same nature. All the angels are equal in nature though not in grace just as we.
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heliotropes4
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« Reply #146 on: November 20, 2007, 01:45:PM »

Off topic, but "gift from God" is so far, to my recollection, the only person who has put Erin and Catholicmilkman on the same side of an argument.  Wow.


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ErinIsNotNice
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« Reply #147 on: November 20, 2007, 02:19:PM »

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Off topic, but "gift from God" is so far, to my recollection, the only person who has put Erin and Catholicmilkman on the same side of an argument.  Wow.



a little pre-Advent FE miracle!
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Catholicmilkman
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« Reply #148 on: November 20, 2007, 02:51:PM »

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Off topic, but "gift from God" is so far, to my recollection, the only person who has put Erin and Catholicmilkman on the same side of an argument.  Wow.
What's odd as well is that my name is Jonathan. It's not that amazing though we're both Catholic so it was bound to happen sometime.
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heliotropes4
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« Reply #149 on: November 21, 2007, 06:59:AM »

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Quote from: heliotropes4
Off topic, but "gift from God" is so far, to my recollection, the only person who has put Erin and Catholicmilkman on the same side of an argument.  Wow.
What's odd as well is that my name is Jonathan. It's not that amazing though we're both Catholic so it was bound to happen sometime.
That's what makes me think this must be a matter of Faith and morals.  Smile

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