Independent seminarians

[MeaMaximaCulpa]

To end the controversies, though, I say a group of valid bishops (Latin or Byzantine) should re-baptize, re-ordain, re-consecrate clergy as necessary, and end all doubts, and videotape and documentate the ceremonies.

Yeah!!!  Just like Donatus...

Of course, the videotape is only a recent invention.  How can we be sure there are ANY valid bishops???  Oh, that's right.  Because the Church has always relied on witnesses to certify that the correct form and matter were used.  Intention can only be doubted if a contrary intention is publicly expressed (like the bishop says the priest is nothing more than a "leader" and somehow implies no ontological change takes place).

While we're using technology, we could actually hook up the bishops to a polygraph while they're in the process of ordaining (then will know if they're truthful), but polygraphs are only 90% reliable.  Perhaps we can shoot them up with sodium pentathol to make sure they're being truthful, but this may affect their reason to an extent that they can't confer a Sacrament.  Oh what to do...

[Robb]

I wish I could join an independent seminary to study for the priesthood.  Maybe later on I could be regularized with some diocese of society of priest after I was safely ordained.

There is no way I could sit back and take the modernist ramblings that you have to endure to study for the priesthood in this day and age.  Even in supposedly conservative seminaries one would have to participate in such things as JP II worship and "true spirit of V II" love fest.  All of which I am not up to or desire to punish myself with.

God help me, all I've ever wanted to do for years was become a Catholic priest.  But I was born too late (or maybe too early) for such a thing to be possible.  Maybe God will throw me a bone and give me a sign with what to do with my life or how to exactly go about becoming a priest in this day and age?

Bob

[winoblue1]

I wish I could join an independent seminary to study for the priesthood.  Maybe later on I could be regularized with some diocese of society of priest after I was safely ordained.

There is no way I could sit back and take the modernist ramblings that you have to endure to study for the priesthood in this day and age.  Even in supposedly conservative seminaries one would have to participate in such things as JP II worship and "true spirit of V II" love fest.  All of which I am not up to or desire to punish myself with.

God help me, all I've ever wanted to do for years was become a Catholic priest.  But I was born too late (or maybe too early) for such a thing to be possible.  Maybe God will throw me a bone and give me a sign with what to do with my life or how to exactly go about becoming a priest in this day and age?

Bob

There still is the option of SSPX? Have you thought about studying for the priesthood with them?

[Robb]

They say that you have to be a regular member in good standing with one of their chapels to even be considered for application to one of their seminaries.  I am not so that would be out of my league.  Unfortunately (as you may garner from my previous post) I am also not a member in good standing of any Novus Ordo or SP/indult parish. 

If the good God wants me in his service, I'm afraid he wouldn't just have to open a few doors for me, he will have to take the roof off my house as well.

Bob

[QuisUtDeus]

If the good God wants me in his service, I'm afraid he wouldn't just have to open a few doors for me, he will have to take the roof off my house as well.

He can do it, for sure.  Maybe He's waiting to see what effort you're willing to make.  Having a regular parish life is part and parcel of being a priest, so maybe He wants you to learn that first.

God plays hardball sometimes, and He's been known to use a brushback pitch.  Wear a helmet, but keep swinging.

[joe17]

  Orthodoxkatholicos,

     The Answers can be ordered at http://www.olgpress.com .  It is written by Fr Kevin Vaillancourt and sorts many things out.

    As to the Duarte-Costa line, while that line is still possibly valid, the fact that he was excommunicated by Pope Pius XII and that he(Costa) started his own church, he and the bishops he ordained cannot licitly be approached for ordination.  Their's are akin to orthodox bishops-they have valid orders, but have no right to use them, save in danger of death.  I will see if I can give you more info.  In short, I would not frequent their Masses or approach them for the sacraments since, unlike your "regular type" of sedevacantist, they deny the primacy of the pope(when there is one) and are content to operate outside of the Catholic Church as if that is a viable option.

    Joe

[Q]

I wish I could join an independent seminary to study for the priesthood.  Maybe later on I could be regularized with some diocese of society of priest after I was safely ordained.

There is no way I could sit back and take the modernist ramblings that you have to endure to study for the priesthood in this day and age.  Even in supposedly conservative seminaries one would have to participate in such things as JP II worship and "true spirit of V II" love fest.  All of which I am not up to or desire to punish myself with.

God help me, all I've ever wanted to do for years was become a Catholic priest.  But I was born too late (or maybe too early) for such a thing to be possible.  Maybe God will throw me a bone and give me a sign with what to do with my life or how to exactly go about becoming a priest in this day and age?

Bob

http://www.mostholytrinityseminary.org/ if you are a sedevacantist here you go. If you are not, well then depending on what your moral standards are and what value you place on them you can just use these people until you get ordained then join SSPX or a diocese. Besides the website says you can do what you want after they ordain you.

At least the weather should be nice there.