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spraycj
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« on: November 23, 2007, 07:54:PM » |
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Are there any independent seminarians lurking out there? |
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"Fratres: Sóbrii estóte, et vigiláte: quia adversárius vester diábolus tamquam leo rúgiens círcuit, quærens quem dévoret: cui resístite fortes in fide. Tu autem, Dómine, miserére nobis."
1 Petri 5, 8-9
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PinoyMonk
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2007, 08:14:PM » |
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I am not one. Are you?
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"I believe that Our Lord also has a punishment for wanton immodesty. It's traditionally called eternal damnation." -CruxFidelis
"In this difficult time, to be victorious, we must be steadfast using all of our strength and capabilities like brave soldiers fully armed in the battlefield ... Whatever happens, behave in such a way that God will be glorified." -Saint Andrew Kim
"Father of truth, behold Thy Son, who makes atoning sacrifice unto Thee. Accept the offering; He died for me that I might have life. Behold the offering! Accept it..." -Saint Charbel
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Traditionalist
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2007, 08:16:PM » |
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Independent? If you mean sedevacantist, that topic is not allowed on this forum.
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PinoyMonk
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2007, 08:19:PM » |
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Traditionalist,
Not all independents are sedevacantists. Let's not throw such accusations around.
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Pinoy Monk
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"I believe that Our Lord also has a punishment for wanton immodesty. It's traditionally called eternal damnation." -CruxFidelis
"In this difficult time, to be victorious, we must be steadfast using all of our strength and capabilities like brave soldiers fully armed in the battlefield ... Whatever happens, behave in such a way that God will be glorified." -Saint Andrew Kim
"Father of truth, behold Thy Son, who makes atoning sacrifice unto Thee. Accept the offering; He died for me that I might have life. Behold the offering! Accept it..." -Saint Charbel
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2007, 08:31:PM » |
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Truly, I was not making an accusation . . . just pointing out that if that were the case, it leads to trouble here.
Forgive me if I have offended.
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PinoyMonk
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2007, 08:35:PM » |
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No worries, Traditionalist. A lot of people have been really jumpy on the topic lately, which I think is a bit much. Hopefully, we can remain on good terms here. To the new member, sedevacantism is indeed forbidden here, but hopefully you can stick around nonetheless. Sedevacantists themselves are NOT banned (last I checked). So, tell us more about yourself!  |
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"I believe that Our Lord also has a punishment for wanton immodesty. It's traditionally called eternal damnation." -CruxFidelis
"In this difficult time, to be victorious, we must be steadfast using all of our strength and capabilities like brave soldiers fully armed in the battlefield ... Whatever happens, behave in such a way that God will be glorified." -Saint Andrew Kim
"Father of truth, behold Thy Son, who makes atoning sacrifice unto Thee. Accept the offering; He died for me that I might have life. Behold the offering! Accept it..." -Saint Charbel
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spraycj
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2007, 10:11:PM » |
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I am not a sedevacantist, not all independents are.  |
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"Fratres: Sóbrii estóte, et vigiláte: quia adversárius vester diábolus tamquam leo rúgiens círcuit, quærens quem dévoret: cui resístite fortes in fide. Tu autem, Dómine, miserére nobis."
1 Petri 5, 8-9
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2007, 10:19:PM » |
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I would think that by nature and vocation..a seminarian cannot be independent. Seminarians must be submitted to some authority that will eventually ordain him. Maybe I dont understand "independant"...I dont think that is possible as a priest. |
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PinoyMonk
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2007, 10:28:PM » |
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TradGlad,
Independent clergy tend to be those traditional Catholics who operate outside of the bounds of the diocesan structure, trying to administer the Sacraments to Catholics adhering to the old ways (ie. not to the post-conciliar innovations). This is somewhat vague, but it is impossible to create a perfect stereotype for such a large contingent.
Hopefully that helps,
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"I believe that Our Lord also has a punishment for wanton immodesty. It's traditionally called eternal damnation." -CruxFidelis
"In this difficult time, to be victorious, we must be steadfast using all of our strength and capabilities like brave soldiers fully armed in the battlefield ... Whatever happens, behave in such a way that God will be glorified." -Saint Andrew Kim
"Father of truth, behold Thy Son, who makes atoning sacrifice unto Thee. Accept the offering; He died for me that I might have life. Behold the offering! Accept it..." -Saint Charbel
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spraycj
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2007, 10:54:PM » |
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TradGlad,
Independent clergy tend to be those traditional Catholics who operate outside of the bounds of the diocesan structure, trying to administer the Sacraments to Catholics adhering to the old ways (ie. not to the post-conciliar innovations). This is somewhat vague, but it is impossible to create a perfect stereotype for such a large contingent.
Hopefully that helps,
Pinoy Monk
That's a good way of putting it, Pinoy Monk. TradGlad, you are correct that a seminarian would need to be under an authority (ie. bishop) who would ordain him. By independent, I was meaning someone not part of the "Indult" (now Motu I would suppose) groups, SSPX, SSPV, or CMRI. |
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1 Petri 5, 8-9
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