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« Reply #290 on: April 24, 2012, 03:56:PM »

HR...you spend too much time on the computer!!! Sticking tongue out at you

You scooped me!! LOL

Ye...I did    Grin
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« Reply #291 on: May 22, 2012, 05:39:PM »

So...how can you control green house gases when mother nature is passing gas at such a huge rate...all the time?   Huh?

At least...this would counteract anything man could muster in reversing the net effect...once again. Nature is doing these climate changes and man is powerless against it. Those control freaks will tell you man is the cause, but clearly, this source alone (and there are many other sources similar to this) negates anything man has or may ever do to reverse the effects natural green house gasing.

And that's just one of the great fallacies in the Climate Change circus.


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http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/05/22/fireballs-in-arctic-as-methane-seeps-uncovered/


Fireballs in the Arctic as methane seeps uncovered

By Alyssa Danigelis

Published May 22, 2012

Discovery News

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Cows are a red herring. The most dangerous potential source for methane release lies underneath thinning permafrost and glaciers in the Arctic. Ecologists have just mapped the seeps where methane is bubbling up, and they found more than 150,000 of them.

PHOTOS: The Stinkiest Places on Earth

Methane is a seriously potent greenhouse gas. Compared to a single molecule of carbon dioxide, methane is 25 times stronger, according to Katey Walter Anthony, an aquatic ecosystem ecologist at the University of Alaska Fairbanks who led the new mapping research. She and her colleagues just published their findings in Nature Geoscience (abstract).

You might know Walter Anthony from YouTube videos, where she and her students illustrate methane release by stabbing pockets frozen in an Alaskan lake and setting the gas on fire. That lake thaws every summer and then winter ice covers the gas bubbles, trapping them. Far thicker caps have been trapping methane year-round in the Arctic, but little was known about how they were holding up. Until now.

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The effect on lake ice formation of subcap and superficial seeps. a–c, Photographs showing examples of the largest superficial seeps (a) and small (b) and large (c) subcap macroseeps. Even the strongest superficial seeps are ice-covered in late winter. Further, bubbling up does not occur simultaneously among superficial seeps (a). In contrast, bubbles breaking the surface of all open holes indicate high, simultaneous bubbling up among subcap seeps (b). d, Clustering of subcap seeps is apparent in the aerial photograph. Photographs were taken near Fairbanks, interior Alaska (a), Cook Inlet, southcentral Alaska (b) and Atqasuk, northern Alaska (c,d) one, eight and three weeks, respectively, following freeze-up. (Walter Anthony, Nature Geoscience)

Walter Anthony and her colleagues combined Arctic aerial survey data with ground-based measurements to document widespread methane seeps along melting glaciers and permafrost for the first time. They looked at both superficial methane seepage from shallow lakes and wetland, as well as seepage from what they call "subcaps" -- the thicker ice cap.

Volatile Methane Ice Could Spark More Drilling Disasters

The scientists discovered 77 subcap seep sites that had never been documented before. In those areas, they recorded more than 150,000 single bubble streams of methane. Most of the methane escape occurred where permafrost was thawing and glaciers retreating.

"In a warmer world, thawing permafrost and wastage of glaciers and ice sheets could lead to a significant transitional degassing of subcap methane," the authors wrote in Nature Geoscience. In other words, time will reveal just how much of a Michael Bay movie we'll be watching unfold in the Arctic.

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« Reply #292 on: May 23, 2012, 10:37:AM »

Frankly, this higher level of complexity just tickles me.  I find it arrogant, vain, and actually comical when whoever scientist is trotted out and makes pronouncements as if he were god !  My very favorite is the Japanese American guy with the long white hair, he is laughable in his conceit.

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« Reply #293 on: May 23, 2012, 02:52:PM »

Frankly, this higher level of complexity just tickles me.  I find it arrogant, vain, and actually comical when whoever scientist is trotted out and makes pronouncements as if he were god !  My very favorite is the Japanese American guy with the long white hair, he is laughable in his conceit.

tim

Are you sure you're not talking about a certain Japanese Canadian called David Suzuki? Sure sounds like him! LOL
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« Reply #294 on: May 23, 2012, 04:20:PM »

Frankly, this higher level of complexity just tickles me.  I find it arrogant, vain, and actually comical when whoever scientist is trotted out and makes pronouncements as if he were god !  My very favorite is the Japanese American guy with the long white hair, he is laughable in his conceit.

tim

Are you sure you're not talking about a certain Japanese Canadian called David Suzuki? Sure sounds like him! LOL

Jovan, I;m pretty sure Tim is referring to Michio Kaku.

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« Reply #295 on: May 24, 2012, 12:35:AM »

Frankly, this higher level of complexity just tickles me.  I find it arrogant, vain, and actually comical when whoever scientist is trotted out and makes pronouncements as if he were god !  My very favorite is the Japanese American guy with the long white hair, he is laughable in his conceit.

tim

Are you sure you're not talking about a certain Japanese Canadian called David Suzuki? Sure sounds like him! LOL

Jovan, I;m pretty sure Tim is referring to Michio Kaku.


Darn! Never heard of him! Suzuki's hair is whiter, tho'! LOL
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« Reply #296 on: June 04, 2012, 12:17:PM »

So this article shows worse glacial melting, back in the '30s than we have today. It even mentions how the clean air initiatives may have actually fueled the melting in our day and that the unbridled industrialization with coal and oil in China, may actually be slowing down the Global Warming.  Huh?

Then, all this effort to stop acid rain from sulfides and stuff has actually been part of the problem? And the huge emissions of China's vast industrial complexes have actually cooled the planet!? So we just should have left it all alone then?!  Shocked

What the hey!  Crazy!




http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/02/1930s_greenland_glacier_retreat/

1930s photos show Greenland glaciers retreating faster than today

But nobody thought it was a big deal

By Lewis Page • Get more from this author

Posted in Science, 2nd June 2012 09:07 GMT

Recently unearthed photographs taken by Danish explorers in the 1930s show glaciers in Greenland retreating faster than they are today, according to researchers.
Danish explorers in Greenland in 1932. Credit: National Survey and Cadastre of Denmark



We're not worried about rising sea levels. Well, we are in a seaplane.

The photos in question were taken by the seventh Thule Expedition to Greenland led by Dr Knud Rasmussen in 1932. The explorers were equipped with a seaplane, which they used to take aerial snaps of glaciers along the Arctic island's coasts.

After the expedition returned the photographs were used to make maps and charts of the area, then placed in archives in Denmark where they lay forgotten for decades. Then, in recent years, international researchers trying to find information on the history of the Greenland glaciers stumbled across them.

Taken together the pictures show clearly that glaciers in the region were melting even faster in the 1930s than they are today, according to Professor Jason Box, who works at the Byrd Polar Research Center at Ohio State uni.

There's much scientific interest in the Greenland ice sheet, as unlike most of the Arctic ice cap it sits on land: thus if it were to melt, serious sea level rises could occur (though the latest research says that this doesn't appear to be on the cards).

It's difficult to know exactly what's happening to the Greenland ice in total and very different estimates have been produced in recent times. However Professor Box says that many glaciers along the coasts have started retreating in the past decade.

It now appears that the glaciers were retreating even faster eighty years ago: but nobody worried about it, and the ice subsequently came back again. Box theorises that this is likely to be because of sulphur pollution released into the atmosphere by humans, especially by burning coal and fuel oils. This is known to have a cooling effect.

Unfortunately atmospheric sulphur emissions also cause other things such as acid rain, and as a result rich Western nations cracked down on sulphates in the 1960s. Prof Box believes that this led to warming from the 1970s onward, which has now led to the glaciers retreating since around 2000.

Other scientists have said recently that late-20th-century temperature rises in the Arctic may result largely from clean-air legislation intended to deal with acid rain: some have even gone so far as to suggest that rapid coal- and diesel-fuelled industrialisation in China is serving to prevent further warming right now.

Still other scientists, differing with Prof Box, offer another picture altogether of Arctic temperatures, in which there were peaks both in the 1930s and 1950s and cooling until the 1990s: and in which the warming trend which resulted in the melting seen by Rasmussen's expedition actually started as early as 1840, before the industrial revolution and human-driven carbon emission had even got rolling. In that scenario, variations in the Sun seem to have much more weight than is generally accepted by today's climatologists.

At any rate, the new information from the old Danish pictures adds some more data to the subject.
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« Reply #297 on: July 25, 2012, 09:26:AM »

So, now, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has come out with a preliminary report that virtually said that all of its past data was JUNK. Then, when they come out with the finished version, they leave out key self criticizing points. Check out the article. Global Warming (man-made) is a fraud and always has been.   Hopping Mad




http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/07/ipcc_admits_its_past_reports_were_junk.html
July 16, 2012
IPCC Admits Its Past Reports Were Junk
By Joseph L. Bast

N.B. A reader reported being unable to find my IAC quotations in the IAC report. I checked and discovered that the version of the IAC report I cite was a "pre-publication version" posted online at the time the report was first announced. That version can be found at  http://heartland.org/sites/all/modules/custom/heartland_migration/files/pdfs/28336.pdf.

That was the only version of the IAC report available when I wrote about it at the time it was released, on 8/31/2010. I confess, I pulled up that unpublished essay and modified it when the IPCC issued its news release some two weeks ago, creating the article that appears here at American Thinker. It did not occur to me that the final version of the report would differ so much from the pre-publication version as to cause this problem.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/07/ipcc_admits_its_past_reports_were_junk.html#ixzz21T6QIU00

I leave it to others to speculate on why the IAC apparently watered down its criticism of the IPCC to the point of making these criticism almost invisible in the final report. I also note that in the 8/31/2010 essay, I offered the following caveat, which also applies to this article but perhaps should not have gone unsaid:

    The report is written in the common language of academics commenting on one another's shortcomings. Recommendations to "strengthen" and "improve" put a positive spin on findings that reveal that current management and review systems are weak, broken, or even corrupt. It takes a little reading between the lines to realize what faults were discovered and being reported.

 

On June 27, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) issued a statement saying it had "complete[d] the process of implementation of a set of recommendations issued in August 2010 by the InterAcademy Council (IAC), the group created by the world's science academies to provide advice to international bodies."

Hidden behind this seemingly routine update on bureaucratic processes is an astonishing and entirely unreported story.  The IPCC is the world's most prominent source of alarmist predictions and claims about man-made global warming.  Its four reports (a fifth report is scheduled for release in various parts in 2013 and 2014) are cited by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in the U.S. and by national academies of science around the world as "proof" that the global warming of the past five or so decades was both man-made and evidence of a mounting crisis.

If the IPCC's reports were flawed, as a many global warming "skeptics" have long claimed, then the scientific footing of the man-made global warming movement -- the environmental movement's "mother of all environmental scares" -- is undermined.  The Obama administration's war on coal may be unnecessary.  Billions of dollars in subsidies to solar and wind may have been wasted.  Trillions of dollars of personal income may have been squandered worldwide in campaigns to "fix" a problem that didn't really exist.

The "recommendations" issued by the IAC were not minor adjustments to a fundamentally sound scientific procedure.  Here are some of the findings of the IAC's 2010 report.

The IAC reported that IPCC lead authors fail to give "due consideration ... to properly documented alternative views" (p. 20), fail to "provide detailed written responses to the most significant review issues identified by the Review Editors" (p. 21), and are not "consider[ing] review comments carefully and document[ing] their responses" (p. 22).  In plain English: the IPCC reports are not peer-reviewed.

The IAC found that "the IPCC has no formal process or criteria for selecting authors" and "the selection criteria seemed arbitrary to many respondents" (p. 18).  Government officials appoint scientists from their countries and "do not always nominate the best scientists from among those who volunteer, either because they do not know who these scientists are or because political considerations are given more weight than scientific qualifications" (p. 18).  In other words: authors are selected from a "club" of scientists and nonscientists who agree with the alarmist perspective favored by politicians.

The rewriting of the Summary for Policy Makers by politicians and environmental activists -- a problem called out by global warming realists for many years, but with little apparent notice by the media or policymakers -- was plainly admitted, perhaps for the first time by an organization in the "mainstream" of alarmist climate change thinking.  "[M]any were concerned that reinterpretations of the assessment's findings, suggested in the final Plenary, might be politically motivated," the IAC auditors wrote.  The scientists they interviewed commonly found the Synthesis Report "too political" (p. 25).

Really?  Too political?  We were told by everyone -- environmentalists, reporters, politicians, even celebrities -- that the IPCC reports were science, not politics.  Now we are told that even the scientists involved in writing the reports -- remember, they are all true believers in man-made global warming themselves -- felt the summaries were "too political."

Here is how the IAC described how the IPCC arrives at the "consensus of scientists":

Plenary sessions to approve a Summary for Policy Makers last for several days and commonly end with an all-night meeting.  Thus, the individuals with the most endurance or the countries that have large delegations can end up having the most influence on the report (p. 25).

How can such a process possibly be said to capture or represent the "true consensus of scientists"?

Another problem documented by the IAC is the use of phony "confidence intervals" and estimates of "certainty" in the Summary for Policy Makers (pp. 27-34).  Those of us who study the IPCC reports knew this was make-believe when we first saw it in 2007.  Work by J. Scott Armstrong on the science of forecasting makes it clear that scientists cannot simply gather around a table and vote on how confident they are about some prediction, and then affix a number to it such as "80% confident."  Yet that is how the IPCC proceeds.

The IAC authors say it is "not an appropriate way to characterize uncertainty" (p. 34), a huge understatement.  Unfortunately, the IAC authors recommend an equally fraudulent substitute, called "level of understanding scale," which is more mush-mouth for "consensus."

The IAC authors warn, also on page 34, that "conclusions will likely be stated so vaguely as to make them impossible to refute, and therefore statements of 'very high confidence' will have little substantive value."  Yes, but that doesn't keep the media and environmental activists from citing them over and over again as "proof" that global warming is man-made and a crisis...even if that's not really what the reports' authors are saying.

Finally, the IAC noted, "the lack of a conflict of interest and disclosure policy for IPCC leaders and Lead Authors was a concern raised by a number of individuals who were interviewed by the Committee or provided written input" as well as "the practice of scientists responsible for writing IPCC assessments reviewing their own work.  The Committee did not investigate the basis of these claims, which is beyond the mandate of this review" (p. 46).

Too bad, because these are both big issues in light of recent revelations that a majority of the authors and contributors to some chapters of the IPCC reports are environmental activists, not scientists at all.  That's a structural problem with the IPCC that could dwarf the big problems already reported.

So on June 27, nearly two years after these bombshells fell (without so much as a raised eyebrow by the mainstream media in the U.S. -- go ahead and try Googling it), the IPCC admits that it was all true and promises to do better for its next report.  Nothing to see here...keep on moving.

Well I say, hold on, there!  The news release means that the IAC report was right.  That, in turn, means that the first four IPCC reports were, in fact, unreliable.  Not just "possibly flawed" or "could have been improved," but likely to be wrong and even fraudulent.

It means that all of the "endorsements" of the climate consensus made by the world's national academies of science -- which invariably refer to the reports of the IPCC as their scientific basis -- were based on false or unreliable data and therefore should be disregarded or revised.  It means that the EPA's "endangerment finding" -- its claim that carbon dioxide is a pollutant and threat to human health -- was wrong and should be overturned.

And what of the next IPCC report, due out in 2013 and 2014?  The near-final drafts of that report have been circulating for months already.  They were written by scientists chosen by politicians rather than on the basis of merit; many of them were reviewing their own work and were free to ignore the questions and comments of people with whom they disagree.  Instead of "confidence," we will get "level of understanding scales" that are just as meaningless.

And on this basis we should transform the world's economy to run on breezes and sunbeams?

In 2010, we learned that much of what we thought we knew about global warming was compromised and probably false.  On June 27, the culprits confessed and promised to do better.  But where do we go to get our money back?

Joseph L. Bast (jbast@heartland.org) is president of The Heartland Institute and an editor of Climate Change Reconsidered, a series of reports published by The Heartland Institute for the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change.
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In the world it is called Tolerance, but in hell it is called Despair, the sin that believes in nothing, cares for nothing, seeks to know nothing, interferes with nothing, enjoys nothing, hates nothing, finds purpose in nothing, lives for nothing, and remains alive because there is nothing for which it will die.
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« Reply #298 on: July 25, 2012, 09:58:AM »

Two things, Michio is the guy, but they have dyed his hair better for TV. Suzuki or whatever I used to watch when cable was first starting, down here, and he was their big international whing ding.  He was Mr. Canadian Great White North's Jacques Costeau, but with snow. It's amazing how any of these guys get on cable tv and after a few programs become Icons of Intelligence without as much as a peep from any opposing view.  If this isn't Rockefellerian psy-ops I have never seen any.

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« Reply #299 on: July 25, 2012, 02:24:PM »



Recently unearthed photographs taken by Danish explorers in the 1930s show glaciers in Greenland retreating faster than they are today, according to researchers.
Danish explorers in Greenland in 1932. Credit: National Survey and Cadastre of Denmark



We're not worried about rising sea levels. Well, we are in a seaplane.

The photos in question were taken by the seventh Thule Expedition to Greenland led by Dr Knud Rasmussen in 1932. The explorers were equipped with a seaplane, which they used to take aerial snaps of glaciers along the Arctic island's coasts.




BTW Tim...did you see the 'unprecedented' (as far as satellite imaging goes, that's only 30 years...they leave that little detail out) Greenland Ice Sheet Retreat that has been in the science journals recently? http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001hrGvhcrdC31NerfNW-lU8CeSjdGZ4cJZh7zxd5V_KkLPY5viNdC9lpTe7Z4xDNdJJNGiXzmaAgwF0IRW2Qfmh6FF4lUugrRxjMLymTXnFkQHrDenadpFwPQOD1nW1CuK7-SWUv8TUWdQNb1hpGcK42TlXuqE1vwH0E6vLOf45Q4vZcIPpfPzDfSnC2cfnf__0j1EOSoxKgMvYbU_WywBSQ== Unprecedented is a word that can mean a whole lot of things, especially when there are no qualifiers attached to the claim. If you look at the picture above...I quoted myself...this has happened before too.

So this disinformation campaign continues.
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In the world it is called Tolerance, but in hell it is called Despair, the sin that believes in nothing, cares for nothing, seeks to know nothing, interferes with nothing, enjoys nothing, hates nothing, finds purpose in nothing, lives for nothing, and remains alive because there is nothing for which it will die.
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