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StrictCatholicGirl
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« Reply #110 on: September 07, 2008, 09:56:PM »

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Why shouldn't a man have a clean and soft face?  

I was being a smarty-pants........pants!

whoops!

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StevusMagnus
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« Reply #111 on: September 07, 2008, 11:08:PM »

It seems we are at an impasse! We will have to agree to disagree on this one.

I simply think skirts and dresses are feminine and are to be preferred for women.

Pants are masculine. Women starting to wear them in large #'s was part of the cultural revolution that wanted to blur the line between the sexes.

I've said that many times and posted all of the articles I know of explaining this view of the topic. Anything further would be redundant.

If you guys must wear pants, I simply pray they are as feminine and modest as possible. ;)

God bless!

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ErinIsNotNice
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« Reply #112 on: September 08, 2008, 07:46:AM »

Quote from: StevusMagnus

If you guys must wear pants, I simply pray they are as feminine and modest as possible. ;)



I'm not giving Mr. NotNice the pants I took from him.  I like them too much.
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gjwalberg
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« Reply #113 on: September 08, 2008, 08:03:AM »

I think I'm even going to go more masculine now.

It's loin cloth time!
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StevusMagnus
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« Reply #114 on: September 08, 2008, 07:36:PM »

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I think I'm even going to go more masculine now.

It's loin cloth time!

gj, that's fine just please don't post them on FE!!
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Joshua
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« Reply #115 on: September 08, 2008, 11:57:PM »

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If the FSSP had done this in any official public way, they would not be considered in full communion with the Pontiff, who insists that both the old and new rite are of equal merit.

The Pope and Cardinal Hoyos allow the FSSP to operate the way it does because they assume that the fraternity does not reject the Novus Ordo in principle. 

Wrong, sir. Liturgical "disputes" are within the realm of ecclesial discipline and do not even carry the mark of infallibility. Lastly, as I have told you many times in the past, groups exist that are in full communion with Rome that are substantially more "Radical" than the SSPX including Feeneyites.

God bless,
JRS
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gjwalberg
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« Reply #116 on: September 09, 2008, 08:01:AM »

Quote from: StevusMagnus
Quote from: gjwalberg
I think I'm even going to go more masculine now.

It's loin cloth time!


gj, that's fine just please don't post them on FE!!

Actually, I was thinking about a new avatar...
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StevusMagnus
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« Reply #117 on: September 11, 2008, 12:30:AM »

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Wrong, sir. Liturgical "disputes" are within the realm of ecclesial discipline and do not even carry the mark of infallibility. Lastly, as I have told you many times in the past, groups exist that are in full communion with Rome that are substantially more "Radical" than the SSPX including Feeneyites.

God bless,
JRS

Did the FSSP receive that Bishop yet? Rome promised them one 20 years ago!

As I've said before, I don't think they have any credibility as to speaking out against the NO liturgy as their own Bishop celebrates it. They seem schizophrenic condemning what Rome enthusiastically approves of.
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Joshua
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« Reply #118 on: September 11, 2008, 01:50:AM »


 Ah, man. Sorry for breaking up the whimsical little debate you guys had going on.

Quote from: StevusMagnus
Did the FSSP receive that Bishop yet? Rome promised them one 20 years ago!

... Your point? How exactly does this speak ill of the FSSP? Is the current strain of SSPX justification: No Bishop = Compromisers?

Regardless, I'd love to see exactly where in the communications between Rome and the FSSP was the promise of a Bishop made.

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As I've said before, I don't think they have any credibility as to speaking out against the NO liturgy as their own Bishop celebrates it.

"Their own" Bishop? Who are we referring to now?

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They seem schizophrenic condemning what Rome enthusiastically approves of.

Wouldn't that same "schizophrenia" apply to all of us here then, including you? I'm assuming you're loyal to Rome and accept Pope Benedict XVI as our Holy Father and his Bishops as valid Bishops ... yet you/we condemn and criticize practices that Rome currently approves of ....

 ... Why is it called "courage", "resistance" and "dry martyrdom"  when you refer to either yourself, traditionalists in general or the Society ... but it is considered "schizophrenia" when it is within the FSSP?

God bless,
JRS
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Would you please spare an AVE for my deceased Aunt Elizabeth who left us on July 16th 2010? May God reward you.

"Know this: it is by very little breaches of regularity that the devil succeeds in introducing the greatest abuses. May you never end up saying: 'This is nothing, this is an exaggeration' ... I would give up my life a thousand times, not only for each of the truths of Sacred Scripture, but even more for the least of the rubrics and ceremonies of the Catholic Church."
+ St. Therese of Avila +

"The person who does not become irate when he has cause to be sins. For an unreasonable patience is the hotbed of many vices.
+ St. John Chrysostom
StevusMagnus
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« Reply #119 on: September 11, 2008, 02:00:AM »

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"Their own" Bishop? Who are we referring to now?

The Bishop whose mercy they are at who allows them in his diocese at his discretion. If they speak out too loudly they can be banished.

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Wouldn't that same "schizophrenia" apply to all of us here then, including you? I'm assuming you're loyal to Rome and accept Pope Benedict XVI as our Holy Father and his Bishops as valid Bishops ... yet you/we condemn and criticize practices that Rome currently approves of ....

 ... Why is it called "courage", "resistance" and "dry martyrdom"  when you refer to either yourself, traditionalists in general or the Society ... but it is considered "schizophrenia" when it is within the FSSP?


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(ii) In practice, the priests of the Society of Saint Peter, having recourse to a Novus Ordo bishop willing to permit the traditional rites and willing to ordain their candidates, they are forced to abandon the fight against the new religion which is being installed:

they reject the Novus Ordo Missae only because it is not their “spirituality” and claim the traditional Latin Mass only in virtue of their “charism” acknowledged them by the Pope,

they seek to ingratiate themselves with the local bishops, praising them for the least sign of Catholic spirit and keeping quiet on their modernist deviations,4 even though by doing so they end up encouraging them along their wrong path, and

note, for example, the Society of Saint Peter’s wholehearted acceptance of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, acceptance of Novus Ordo professors in their seminaries, and blanket acceptance of Vatican Us orthodoxy.

They are therefore conciliar Catholics and not traditional Catholics.

This being so, attending their Mass is:

accepting the compromise on which they are based,

accepting the direction taken by the conciliar Church and the consequent destruction of the Catholic Faith and practices, and

accepting, in particular, the lawfulness and doctrinal soundness of the Novus Ordo Missae and Vatican II.


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