Why foreign women make better wives?

[Paloma]

I personally like taking care of my dearest. I do all I can to support him and care for him. Many times I sacrifice my will and submit to his. I do this because he respects and cares for me and it is my choice and privilege to care for him. I find it sad that many modern women do not understand the gift of submission.

Let me guess...newlywed?  I felt the same way at first.  Now I just want to know what's so elusive about putting dirty clothes in a basket, or at least a single pile instead of spreading them over every surface in the house.

Now don't complain--  Don't you know it's a beautiful privilege to be able to follow a man around and pick up his dirty socks?

Back when both my husband and I worked, he was really good about picking up after himself because it was a team-effort.  Now that I'm playing hausfrau, he has turned into man-bear-pig because apparently he has a maid now.  Funny how that plays out.

Its an honor.  :rolleyes:

[ErinIsNotNice]

Is this where I get to brag that Mr. NotNice folds all the laundry and puts it all away?

[Paloma]

Is this where I get to brag that Mr. NotNice folds all the laundry and puts it all away?

Mr. Paloma-Loma-Lou does that too.  If I ask him to.  And sweeten the deal with a couple beers and an uninterrupted game on tv while he's doing it

Though I usually don't have him put them away unless I want dress shirts stuffed in a drawer and pajamas hanging up in a closet.  Sometimes its just easier to do things yourself.  Sigh.

[Catholicdad]

Now don't complain--  Don't you know it's a beautiful privilege to be able to follow a man around and pick up his dirty socks?

I wouldn't do this to my wife--my God!  The horror . . . the horror . . .

[veritas]

I still can't figure out why grown men, if they are so powerful and in charge, need to be "taken care of" like children.

I personally like taking care of my dearest. I do all I can to support him and care for him. Many times I sacrifice my will and submit to his. I do this because he respects and cares for me and it is my choice and privilege to care for him. I find it sad that many modern women do not understand the gift of submission.

The gift of submission?

Hmmmmm.

Look, not every man wants a wife to be submissive.  My husband knows that if he ran the show, we'd be broke and homeless - but we'd be season ticket holders and have an awesome baseball card collection.  I run our household.  Do I enjoy it?  Not really.  I'm tired of being completely responsible for everything but its the way it works here.  I've had a serious relationship in the past where the dynamic was close to what you've described - and it worked for a long time and I was happy with it.  Its not that I don't understand this "gift" you are talking about it...its just not the way it works out.   Often for the better.

Luckily my parents raised me to be independent and strong minded otherwise my family would be drowning right now.

I think in order for this dynamic to work, the two must have mutual respect for each other. The gift is that we submit to each other. He has his place in the world and I have mine. I work to support him and ease his burden and he works to provide and care for for us.

Not all women are suited to freely submitting their will as are not all men mature enough to respect a woman to carefully care for that submitted will. It just seems that some women on this board attack the idea of submission as some how being subserviant which is not the case at all. I am not saying every woman is capable of putting aside their own wants and needs and caring for their spouse. Nor am I saying every man deserves it. It takes a good, strong and trustworthy man who is mature enough to understand the gift that submission gives.

When I submit my will, I trust my dearest as Mary trusted in God in submitting her; as the Church submits its will to Christ. Not many modern people understand this kind of submission sadly. So many think it has to do with some weird S&M idea of submission. It doesn't.

[ErinIsNotNice]

I am not saying every woman is capable of putting aside their own wants and needs and caring for their spouse. Nor am I saying every man deserves it. It takes a good, strong and trustworthy man who is mature enough to understand the gift that submission gives.

Those of us with children know all about putting aside our own wants and needs.

[Paloma]

I still can't figure out why grown men, if they are so powerful and in charge, need to be "taken care of" like children.

I personally like taking care of my dearest. I do all I can to support him and care for him. Many times I sacrifice my will and submit to his. I do this because he respects and cares for me and it is my choice and privilege to care for him. I find it sad that many modern women do not understand the gift of submission.

The gift of submission?

Hmmmmm.

Look, not every man wants a wife to be submissive.  My husband knows that if he ran the show, we'd be broke and homeless - but we'd be season ticket holders and have an awesome baseball card collection.  I run our household.  Do I enjoy it?  Not really.  I'm tired of being completely responsible for everything but its the way it works here.  I've had a serious relationship in the past where the dynamic was close to what you've described - and it worked for a long time and I was happy with it.  Its not that I don't understand this "gift" you are talking about it...its just not the way it works out.   Often for the better.

Luckily my parents raised me to be independent and strong minded otherwise my family would be drowning right now.

I think in order for this dynamic to work, the two must have mutual respect for each other. The gift is that we submit to each other. He has his place in the world and I have mine. I work to support him and ease his burden and he works to provide and care for for us.

Not all women are suited to freely submitting their will as are not all men mature enough to respect a woman to carefully care for that submitted will. It just seems that some women on this board attack the idea of submission as some how being subserviant which is not the case at all. I am not saying every woman is capable of putting aside their own wants and needs and caring for their spouse. Nor am I saying every man deserves it. It takes a good, strong and trustworthy man who is mature enough to understand the gift that submission gives.

When I submit my will, I trust my dearest as Mary trusted in God in submitting her; as the Church submits its will to Christ. Not many modern people understand this kind of submission sadly. So many think it has to do with some weird S&M idea of submission. It doesn't.

I can respect that.  Though marriage (for men and women) and motherhood in general entails putting aside your wants and needs.  My beef is strictly with men that seek this type of woman out thinking they will be getting a servant girl, complete with benefits.

The other thing that I mentioned before was men wanting to take a foreign woman to America where she has no friends or family and has to rely on him for everything.  That's often what happens in most marriages of this kind,  and obviously it is a kind of sacrifice.  But its a known fact that abusers intentionally try to cut their spouse off from all friends and family so that all contact is filtered through the abuser.  Of course that is not to say that most men who look elsewhere for wives are abusive...but the situation would be appealing to an abuser.  Just sayin'

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[veritas]

Let me guess...newlywed?  I felt the same way at first.  Now I just want to know what's so elusive about putting dirty clothes in a basket, or at least a single pile instead of spreading them over every surface in the house.

No actually, we are not newlyweds. In fact, we have not even wed yet. We are to wed next summer. To make a long story short, he has never been married and I am divorced. I have been involved with a lengthy annulment which is nearly over. (and before anyone starts up with that assinine Catholic divorce crap, several ultratraditionalist priests have said that the annulment should be granted and would have even a hundred years ago. yeah, it was that bad.)

Anyway, He is by no means perfect and he has his faults as I have mine. I am happy when he puts down the toilet seat otherwise he hears me yell "girl room!!" to remind him

[veritas]

Those of us with children know all about putting aside our own wants and needs.

So where did I attack motherhood and say that mothers didn't?

[QuisUtDeus]

Those of us with children know all about putting aside our own wants and needs.

So where did I attack motherhood and say that mothers didn't?

You didn't, but Erin's on a roll so...

I'm wondering if maybe someday she'll let Mr.NotNice use the cipherin' machine between loads of laundry and we can hear his side of things.