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« Reply #240 on: June 15, 2009, 09:33:AM » |
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Poor RRR.  Some American woman must have been awfully nasty to you (and/or friends of yours?) to make you talk about "99% of American women" that way. I am sorry. This (happily, traditionally married) American lady forgives you the detraction. Talk to every woman I have ever known and they will say, I am the kindest, most respectful person they have known. You want me to read hand written letters I have gotten from them? ;) How is it a detraction when I clause it to "Americanized women" and say women who are raised Catholic are better than foreign wives, they are the best women in the world. Don't get me wrong secularized men are also ruined. And I enjoy being around secular women, (not because of any reason you are currently think  ), just because they warm up when they are around respectful guys. However, secularized women would never be marriage material for any serious Catholic guy. Hence, why corrupted guys who go overseas and date less corrupted women (sometimes much less than Americanized women) and want to tell everyone about it. This is not about hating women, it is a discussion about the ruining of human beings by a diabolical society. Secular men realize many secular women are ruined here from our "fine" American culture and opt for foreign wives. 50% of marriages end in divorce, this is not some statistic, I know many Catholics families ripped apart from divorce. Every one, especially those involving children will bring tears to your eyes. Most of the ones I am aware of are because of infidelity. It is the programming we receive from the culture (media/fashion/toys) that is doing this. Things don't just happen like this... where the focus and the promotion is on the diabolical. I could explain a lot more, but I'll leave it here. Thank you very much for clearing that up. Your original post did not come across very well (I think the sweeping generalizations were the worst—it made me feel as though you thought all American women were materialistic adulteresses! :o) ) but I now see you didn't write it. I should hope no Catholic man would think so poorly of women as did the people who wrote those things. But I think everyone here would agree that the farther a society moves from Catholic teaching and the pursuit of virtue, everything suffers—not the least of all the battle of the sexes! 
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flannerywannabe
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« Reply #241 on: June 15, 2009, 06:03:PM » |
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Poor RRR.  Some American woman must have been awfully nasty to you (and/or friends of yours?) to make you talk about "99% of American women" that way. I am sorry. This (happily, traditionally married) American lady forgives you the detraction. Talk to every woman I have ever known and they will say, I am the kindest, most respectful person they have known. You want me to read hand written letters I have gotten from them? ;) How is it a detraction when I clause it to "Americanized women" and say women who are raised Catholic are better than foreign wives, they are the best women in the world. Don't get me wrong secularized men are also ruined. And I enjoy being around secular women, (not because of any reason you are currently think  ), just because they warm up when they are around respectful guys. However, secularized women would never be marriage material for any serious Catholic guy. Hence, why corrupted guys who go overseas and date less corrupted women (sometimes much less than Americanized women) and want to tell everyone about it. This is not about hating women, it is a discussion about the ruining of human beings by a diabolical society. Secular men realize many secular women are ruined here from our "fine" American culture and opt for foreign wives. 50% of marriages end in divorce, this is not some statistic, I know many Catholics families ripped apart from divorce. Every one, especially those involving children will bring tears to your eyes. Most of the ones I am aware of are because of infidelity. It is the programming we receive from the culture (media/fashion/toys) that is doing this. Things don't just happen like this... where the focus and the promotion is on the diabolical. I could explain a lot more, but I'll leave it here. Thank you very much for clearing that up. Your original post did not come across very well (I think the sweeping generalizations were the worst—it made me feel as though you thought all American women were materialistic adulteresses! :o) ) but I now see you didn't write it. I should hope no Catholic man would think so poorly of women as did the people who wrote those things. But I think everyone here would agree that the farther a society moves from Catholic teaching and the pursuit of virtue, everything suffers—not the least of all the battle of the sexes!  Yes, it is a comfort and relief to me to know the rhetoric is copy-pasted by, not originated with, you, RRR. I still question the choice to perpetuate such rhetoric, especially here, where it's a safe bet everyone agrees that contemporary American society encourages selfishness and that it produces evil effects in those who embrace it as well as suffering for those around them. Why lambaste (or repeat what other people have said to lambaste) poor dupes (male or female) who, as someone said earlier, are only behaving as they have been formed to behave, are not here to hear it anyway, and would only bristle in defensiveness if they were? I'm truly curious how you will respond. This said, I make no claim to be the kindest, most respectful person you have known. That would be a bad lie. I'd have to go to Confession over that. ;)
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« Reply #242 on: June 15, 2009, 08:04:PM » |
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Okay, RRR, but I'm not letting you off the hook until you explain your seeming approval of women not presuming to leave the house without their husbands' permission.
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flannerywannabe
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« Reply #243 on: June 15, 2009, 08:11:PM » |
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Hm, he's taken down all of the posts with the inflammatory stuff in them. Not a bad idea, that.
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« Reply #244 on: June 15, 2009, 08:36:PM » |
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Hm, he's taken down all of the posts with the inflammatory stuff in them. Not a bad idea, that.
looks like he took them all down... and that's before I got to answer the one directed towards me.
I can't believe that anyone on this planet is worse than I am when it comes to cutting and pasting....
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Domini Canis
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« Reply #245 on: June 16, 2009, 08:24:AM » |
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It seems like a worldwide phenomenon, why men tends to look outside their own countries for prospective brides? I'm thinking of looking one myself outside my county, anyone here have any experiences to share?
What country are you from? Also, outside your county? Is this a typo, and do you mean country? Or are the girls hotter in the next county over? 
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« Reply #246 on: June 16, 2009, 08:28:AM » |
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And I thought we were going to have a new Stevus to play with :(
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« Reply #247 on: June 16, 2009, 08:44:AM » |
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And I thought we were going to have a new Stevus to play with :(
I can't remember Stevus ever making a case for a woman not leaving the house without her husband's permission ... he was just obsessed with skirts. Oh, and that Doctor Love guy.
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« Reply #248 on: June 16, 2009, 08:51:AM » |
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And I thought we were going to have a new Stevus to play with :(
I can't remember Stevus ever making a case for a woman not leaving the house without her husband's permission ... he was just obsessed with skirts. Oh, and that Doctor Love guy.hahahaha!!!  obsessed with skirts...love that. Id like to see a guy walk around in -30 degree weather(damn cold in Canada) in a skirt. Good times, lemme tell ya. At my little sisters school, they have to waer skirts, even during physical education, its ridiculous
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« Reply #249 on: June 16, 2009, 08:54:AM » |
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And I thought we were going to have a new Stevus to play with :(
I can't remember Stevus ever making a case for a woman not leaving the house without her husband's permission ... he was just obsessed with skirts. Oh, and that Doctor Love guy.hahahaha!!!  obsessed with skirts...love that. Id like to see a guy walk around in -30 degree weather(damn cold in Canada) in a skirt. Good times, lemme tell ya. At my little sisters school, they have to waer skirts, even during physical education, its ridiculous True, true. If you wear a skirt in really cold weather, you just end up wearing pants of some sort underneath. Skirts during physical education isn't necessarily bad. The traditional lacrosse uniform involves a skirt, although if memory serves it was like a short kilt -- not at all modest in the everyday sense.
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