UFOs: Demonic Manifestations?

[Zedta]

Everything he mentions <EM>could</EM> be done by demons, but <EM>not necessarily.  </EM>A lot of it is within the scope of advanced technology.

What are "Fallen Angels"? Arguably they are demons, but more specifically they are devils. Some have reasoned that Demons are the spirits of the creatures engineered, during the period of Gen.6. Where the Fallen ones came and took "for wives",  human women., They are the ones with six fingers and toes, the giants that Aaron warned Moses about and that were similar to Goliath. Many of them died in the flood. Their spirits remained and cause problems even today. They are not as smart as the devils and are usually the cause of haunting, to say it simply.

The fallen ones are preternaturally intelligent and of another dimension. They can cause phenomena that can appear "supernatural", but they are still bound by the Creator's laws of order and cannot break those laws (supernatural phenomena) as He can. We can see in the Book of Tobit, how angels can affect man. They can make men see what it is the angel wants him to see, by over-ridding the human mind and they can fool the demon. They can cure illnesses, but by use of a "medicine" and not by the power of their word, as Jesus did. They have their limitations, so must the fallen angels too.

So, how can an angel make things manifest in this dimension? I mean truly exist in our dimension? They must build something and to do this, they need a three (some would say four) dimensional being to do it for them. How could they perform such a feat? Well, finding willing humans to do their bidding is the classical demonic method, but for the BIGGER things, they need more than those possessed by their spirits or those willing to follow directions, they need an automaton. A "living" vessel that they can inhabit with their spirit or some portion of their spirit...something that can interact with mankind.

The devils have been mucking up the genetics of God's Creation for thousands of years. In Gen. 6, God says He will destroy the earth because it had become "corrupted", it was not like his creation anymore, the devils had ruined it. Noah was "perfect in his generations", not an unusually good man or moral (he got drunk and his daughters messed with him sexually), but he was untouched by the demonic/devil manipulation of the gene pool. The ancient books of nearly every culture are full of beings who came from the skies and had unusual "powers" and were usually giants. They performed great things, building large edifices and showing the primitives how to do general civil engineering. They also had something else in common: They had varying degrees of abhorrently disfigured humanoids around them. Strange creatures and some that looked like giant humans that carried on contact with the primitives, while the others warred or kept the primitives in line by their ferocity.

Today, after many years of refinement and tinkering, the final battle is near and the players are all set. They have harvested (cattle/animal mutilations) the necessary tissues for quick reproduction of automaton (greys) entities and have the entities that appear more human due to a long history of human abduction and genetic manipulation of the human genome and use of abductee reproductive organs/tissues to reproduce an ongoing and slowly improving product. One that can fool even the elite. They have seeded their digital technology into our world and have used their reproductions to make deals with our governments. They have given us little tidbits of technology to where we have our own types of "flying saucers", human piloted UFOs, scooting around using their technology. We suddenly have computers, transistors, night vision and integrated circuits...all alien technology we back-engineered, according to Phillip Corso.

Soon, the stage will be set for the great deception and the players are already taking their places on the stage. It is only a matter of time before the director says ACTION!!

[miss_fluffy]

I'm fairly certain that the ufo over Jerusalem thing was a fabricated hoax.  Simple camera tricks.

[QuisUtDeus]

Everything he mentions <EM>could</EM> be done by demons, but <EM>not necessarily.  </EM>A lot of it is within the scope of advanced technology.

What are "Fallen Angels"? Arguably they are demons, but more specifically they are devils. Some have reasoned that Demons are the spirits of the creatures engineered, during the period of Gen.6. Where the Fallen ones came and took "for wives",  human women., They are the ones with six fingers and toes, the giants that Aaron warned Moses about and that were similar to Goliath. Many of them died in the flood. Their spirits remained and cause problems even today. They are not as smart as the devils and are usually the cause of haunting, to say it simply.

The fallen ones are preternaturally intelligent and of another dimension. They can cause phenomena that can appear "supernatural", but they are still bound by the Creator's laws of order and cannot break those laws (supernatural phenomena) as He can. We can see in the Book of Tobit, how angels can affect man. They can make men see what it is the angel wants him to see, by over-ridding the human mind and they can fool the demon. They can cure illnesses, but by use of a "medicine" and not by the power of their word, as Jesus did. They have their limitations, so must the fallen angels too.

So, how can an angel make things manifest in this dimension? I mean truly exist in our dimension? They must build something and to do this, they need a three (some would say four) dimensional being to do it for them. How could they perform such a feat? Well, finding willing humans to do their bidding is the classical demonic method, but for the BIGGER things, they need more than those possessed by their spirits or those willing to follow directions, they need an automaton. A "living" vessel that they can inhabit with their spirit or some portion of their spirit...something that can interact with mankind.

The devils have been mucking up the genetics of God's Creation for thousands of years. In Gen. 6, God says He will destroy the earth because it had become "corrupted", it was not like his creation anymore, the devils had ruined it. Noah was "perfect in his generations", not an unusually good man or moral (he got drunk and his daughters messed with him sexually), but he was untouched by the demonic/devil manipulation of the gene pool. The ancient books of nearly every culture are full of beings who came from the skies and had unusual "powers" and were usually giants. They performed great things, building large edifices and showing the primitives how to do general civil engineering. They also had something else in common: They had varying degrees of abhorrently disfigured humanoids around them. Strange creatures and some that looked like giant humans that carried on contact with the primitives, while the others warred or kept the primitives in line by their ferocity.

Today, after many years of refinement and tinkering, the final battle is near and the players are all set. They have harvested (cattle/animal mutilations) the necessary tissues for quick reproduction of automaton (greys) entities and have the entities that appear more human due to a long history of human abduction and genetic manipulation of the human genome and use of abductee reproductive organs/tissues to reproduce an ongoing and slowly improving product. One that can fool even the elite. They have seeded their digital technology into our world and have used their reproductions to make deals with our governments. They have given us little tidbits of technology to where we have our own types of "flying saucers", human piloted UFOs, scooting around using their technology. We suddenly have computers, transistors, night vision and integrated circuits...all alien technology we back-engineered, according to Phillip Corso.

Soon, the stage will be set for the great deception and the players are already taking their places on the stage. It is only a matter of time before the director says ACTION!!

Well, a lot of what you mention with regard to demons is speculative theology and may or may not be correct. Humans fell long before Noe and it had nothing to do with interbreeding.

As far as doing things in our dimension, I don't know if you've ever read the Mothman Prophecies or not, but whatever they were - demons or aliens - they were able to do a lot on their own.  Demons and angels in the Bible have the ability to take physical human form, e.g., Lot.

There may be both demons and aliens.

[Avalonik]

Everything he mentions <EM>could</EM> be done by demons, but <EM>not necessarily.  </EM>A lot of it is within the scope of advanced technology.

What are "Fallen Angels"? Arguably they are demons, but more specifically they are devils. Some have reasoned that Demons are the spirits of the creatures engineered, during the period of Gen.6. Where the Fallen ones came and took "for wives",  human women., They are the ones with six fingers and toes, the giants that Aaron warned Moses about and that were similar to Goliath. Many of them died in the flood. Their spirits remained and cause problems even today. They are not as smart as the devils and are usually the cause of haunting, to say it simply.

The fallen ones are preternaturally intelligent and of another dimension. They can cause phenomena that can appear "supernatural", but they are still bound by the Creator's laws of order and cannot break those laws (supernatural phenomena) as He can. We can see in the Book of Tobit, how angels can affect man. They can make men see what it is the angel wants him to see, by over-ridding the human mind and they can fool the demon. They can cure illnesses, but by use of a "medicine" and not by the power of their word, as Jesus did. They have their limitations, so must the fallen angels too.

So, how can an angel make things manifest in this dimension? I mean truly exist in our dimension? They must build something and to do this, they need a three (some would say four) dimensional being to do it for them. How could they perform such a feat? Well, finding willing humans to do their bidding is the classical demonic method, but for the BIGGER things, they need more than those possessed by their spirits or those willing to follow directions, they need an automaton. A "living" vessel that they can inhabit with their spirit or some portion of their spirit...something that can interact with mankind.

The devils have been mucking up the genetics of God's Creation for thousands of years. In Gen. 6, God says He will destroy the earth because it had become "corrupted", it was not like his creation anymore, the devils had ruined it. Noah was "perfect in his generations", not an unusually good man or moral (he got drunk and his daughters messed with him sexually), but he was untouched by the demonic/devil manipulation of the gene pool. The ancient books of nearly every culture are full of beings who came from the skies and had unusual "powers" and were usually giants. They performed great things, building large edifices and showing the primitives how to do general civil engineering. They also had something else in common: They had varying degrees of abhorrently disfigured humanoids around them. Strange creatures and some that looked like giant humans that carried on contact with the primitives, while the others warred or kept the primitives in line by their ferocity.

Today, after many years of refinement and tinkering, the final battle is near and the players are all set. They have harvested (cattle/animal mutilations) the necessary tissues for quick reproduction of automaton (greys) entities and have the entities that appear more human due to a long history of human abduction and genetic manipulation of the human genome and use of abductee reproductive organs/tissues to reproduce an ongoing and slowly improving product. One that can fool even the elite. They have seeded their digital technology into our world and have used their reproductions to make deals with our governments. They have given us little tidbits of technology to where we have our own types of "flying saucers", human piloted UFOs, scooting around using their technology. We suddenly have computers, transistors, night vision and integrated circuits...all alien technology we back-engineered, according to Phillip Corso.

Soon, the stage will be set for the great deception and the players are already taking their places on the stage. It is only a matter of time before the director says ACTION!!

Well, a lot of what you mention with regard to demons is speculative theology and may or may not be correct. Humans fell long before Noe and it had nothing to do with interbreeding.

As far as doing things in our dimension, I don't know if you've ever read the Mothman Prophecies or not, but whatever they were - demons or aliens - they were able to do a lot on their own.  Demons and angels in the Bible have the ability to take physical human form, e.g., Lot.

There may be both demons and aliens.

Yes, Quis, the above (interesting as it is aside) smacks of Bill Schnoebelen.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZctajpk0QI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZctajpk0QI</a>

[Bearded Man]

Everything he mentions <EM>could</EM> be done by demons, but <EM>not necessarily.  </EM>A lot of it is within the scope of advanced technology.

What are "Fallen Angels"? Arguably they are demons, but more specifically they are devils. Some have reasoned that Demons are the spirits of the creatures engineered, during the period of Gen.6. Where the Fallen ones came and took "for wives",  human women., They are the ones with six fingers and toes, the giants that Aaron warned Moses about and that were similar to Goliath. Many of them died in the flood. Their spirits remained and cause problems even today. They are not as smart as the devils and are usually the cause of haunting, to say it simply.

The fallen ones are preternaturally intelligent and of another dimension. They can cause phenomena that can appear "supernatural", but they are still bound by the Creator's laws of order and cannot break those laws (supernatural phenomena) as He can. We can see in the Book of Tobit, how angels can affect man. They can make men see what it is the angel wants him to see, by over-ridding the human mind and they can fool the demon. They can cure illnesses, but by use of a "medicine" and not by the power of their word, as Jesus did. They have their limitations, so must the fallen angels too.

So, how can an angel make things manifest in this dimension? I mean truly exist in our dimension? They must build something and to do this, they need a three (some would say four) dimensional being to do it for them. How could they perform such a feat? Well, finding willing humans to do their bidding is the classical demonic method, but for the BIGGER things, they need more than those possessed by their spirits or those willing to follow directions, they need an automaton. A "living" vessel that they can inhabit with their spirit or some portion of their spirit...something that can interact with mankind.

The devils have been mucking up the genetics of God's Creation for thousands of years. In Gen. 6, God says He will destroy the earth because it had become "corrupted", it was not like his creation anymore, the devils had ruined it. Noah was "perfect in his generations", not an unusually good man or moral (he got drunk and his daughters messed with him sexually), but he was untouched by the demonic/devil manipulation of the gene pool. The ancient books of nearly every culture are full of beings who came from the skies and had unusual "powers" and were usually giants. They performed great things, building large edifices and showing the primitives how to do general civil engineering. They also had something else in common: They had varying degrees of abhorrently disfigured humanoids around them. Strange creatures and some that looked like giant humans that carried on contact with the primitives, while the others warred or kept the primitives in line by their ferocity.

Today, after many years of refinement and tinkering, the final battle is near and the players are all set. They have harvested (cattle/animal mutilations) the necessary tissues for quick reproduction of automaton (greys) entities and have the entities that appear more human due to a long history of human abduction and genetic manipulation of the human genome and use of abductee reproductive organs/tissues to reproduce an ongoing and slowly improving product. One that can fool even the elite. They have seeded their digital technology into our world and have used their reproductions to make deals with our governments. They have given us little tidbits of technology to where we have our own types of "flying saucers", human piloted UFOs, scooting around using their technology. We suddenly have computers, transistors, night vision and integrated circuits...all alien technology we back-engineered, according to Phillip Corso.

Soon, the stage will be set for the great deception and the players are already taking their places on the stage. It is only a matter of time before the director says ACTION!!

Well, a lot of what you mention with regard to demons is speculative theology and may or may not be correct. Humans fell long before Noe and it had nothing to do with interbreeding.

As far as doing things in our dimension, I don't know if you've ever read the Mothman Prophecies or not, but whatever they were - demons or aliens - they were able to do a lot on their own.  Demons and angels in the Bible have the ability to take physical human form, e.g., Lot.

There may be both demons and aliens.

Yes, Quis, the above (interesting as it is aside) smacks of Bill Schnoebelen.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZctajpk0QI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZctajpk0QI</a>

I like his beard.

This is a fascinating subject but it seems rather far fetched. 

[Zedta]

There may be both demons and aliens.

This is a fascinating subject but it seems rather far fetched. 

What is "far fetched"? Respectfully, it is such a relative term and in a short time, these far fetched things may be knocking at your door. I think that man fell long before Noah, that is an Adamic kinda fact, but that was an inherited, Original Sin kinda fall and this was not a spiritual/trust/ obey me I am your God kinda fall for the man. It goes earlier still, when the angels revolted and have sought to overthrow God's Throne and all It stands for,  ever since. They can corrupt creation so far as to cause even this level of His creation to turn against the Throne of God. They have only one shot at the coup and they have been working for many thousands of years to prepare this diversionary tactic, this trick to win God's creation to their "man".

There are striped and there are rainbow, but they are both trout. There are grey and there are the Norwegian-looking ones, but they are both the devil's spawn. We are targets, not the benefactors in this contact.

[Bearded Man]

There may be both demons and aliens.

This is a fascinating subject but it seems rather far fetched. 

What is "far fetched"? Respectfully, it is such a relative term and in a short time, these far fetched things may be knocking at your door. I think that man fell long before Noah, that is an Adamic kinda fact, but that was an inherited, Original Sin kin






  Do you have any scholarly sources?

[faith3faith]

How can anyone believe there is "Intelligent" alien life out there when God made only man in his own image? Plus, God became a human in his incarnation, not a Klingon, Vulcan, Romulan, Gray etc....

We are to believe that there could be countless "Intelligent" alien life ou there, but God just so happen to only become human?!?!?  Seems more logical that we humans are the only "Intelligent" life in this Universe, and if there is any life out there, then it would be "unintelligent" alien life, such as plants, insects, fish, reptiles and mammal animals.

[Zedta]

Well Bearded Man, for one there was Mack. He the now deceased Harvard Professor of Psychology, if I recall correctly, who studied the abduction phenomena for many years and could not disprove the stories as psychological abhorrence in all the studies he made. He wrote a book on it and caused a bit of a stir back then. He mentioned in this book, about this one abductee, who'd often have these hummingbird-like, but mechanical things that would come around at odd times, but they got to be a thing of peace after a while, that someone was watching over them, the abductees would report on some occations. It kinda sounds like familiars. Like the familiars that the goons, witches and such would have around them, the possessed or oppressed may have them too...like little animals (imps?) or people. Sounds like a close match between the old stories and the modern abduction reports.

Just for one example.

For another, try Phillip Corso, he also now deceased and find his book, The Day After Roswell. A very interesting read. What got me was the story of the Transistor. No one had been doing much research on DC, digital, solid state, electronics, except for the Wheatstone Bridge maybe, and suddenly those guys over at Bell Laboratory come up with the concept of the Transistor...and they have an example of one, with no publications or papers of work leading up to the discovery. Just wham, here it is and were not sure how it works, but we're gettin' better.

Happened on a few things, things that all came out at about the same time, like night vision, integrated circuit boards, fiber optics, microchips and others, according to Corso.

 I was sellin' electronics back then, when transistors hit the electronic scene. The compact tube circuits were getting better and tubes were gettin' smaller...things were mostly AC...no battery, except for that car radio and it had a buzzer in it to create an oscillating current for the tubes. Then boom, in came transistors and the world has forever changed. From an analog world to a digitized form of the analogous, like looking out a window at a beautiful scene, but, through a bug screen.  And, oh ya, the tubes sets are not damaged by EMF. 

World has been changed. The technology we have is very delicate. A little too much EMF and an integrated circuit board becomes expensive trash. Your electronic crutch/smartphone is dead...forever dead. You can't remember anything about what was on your screen. Your lost. You can't call anyone and there are practically NO public phone booths anymore. And that is just the start to the termoil that will result from such a technological collapse...think about that a second. It could happen at any time at all. From the sun, the deep space cosmic rays or from our own gov't and its ultra highpowered radio stations...yeah, there are more than the one and most are run by Raythion and they are world-wide and they are much larger than the HAARP that you know about.

It's out there, you gotta dig. Look for yourself! Discovery enhances one's memory of events.

Too many coincidences

I'm just sayin' from readin' alot on the sumject for a few years, having known someone who's cattle were mutilated and who saw the cattle first. hand. It was on her father's ranch. It's a happinin'. Things are gonna get [;enty strange in the world more quickly now. Seems like were at the last of the back of the Good Book and things ain't so hospitable for humans in those days predicted and they are at the door.  

[CrusaderKing]

I first read about UFOs and Close Encounters when I was about 9-10 years old, and even read the book Chariots of the Gods by Erich von Daniken. I've come to the conclusion that aliens or UFOnauts as they're sometimes called are demonic in origin.

When people first started reporting encounters with reputed aliens, back in the 1950's or thereabouts, there were a variety of different beings encountered. Now, everyone seems to be coming into contact with the aliens called, "Greys" and maybe the occasional "Nordics,"  aliens that resemble modern day Swedes, Danes, or Norwegians.The "greys" with their big eyes sort of resemble depictions of ancient Sumerian "gods."

They often leave behind the scent of sulphur, which is associated with the devil and his demons.

People who have had "close encounters" usually tend to be agnostics, atheists, pagans, or new agers, which is a clear tip off as to why they were "selected."

The "messages" given to alleged contactees is diametrically opposed to Christianity. One alien reportedly told an abductee that, "our problem is with your religious belief system."

People are usually abducted against their will, usually at 3:00 AM in the morning or thereabouts.

UFOs are often seen around old pagan sites or Indian burial mounds.

Abductees claim they saw aliens walking through the walls of their homes. Why would anyone need a spacecraft to travel millions of light years if they could walk through walls?   

These are just a smattering of reasons why I've come to the conclusion that UFOs are up to no good and are what one has called, "Satan's Air Force." It's also been said that the so called Roswell, New Mexico crash in 1947 was a secret government experiment in which they used people from Japan who had a disease called progeria, which aged them rapidly, and this gave them the appearance of an alien, to see the effects high altitude flying would have on people.