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antimodernist
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« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2008, 10:24:AM »

Thank you Stevus Magnus.
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« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2008, 11:11:AM »

I've been thinking about the role of the FSSP in all of this based on StevusMagnus post.  Should the priests of the FSSP rail against specific things from the pulpit?  Maybe.  Do they ever?  I don't know.  But it seems that this is a good and worthy place to attend Mass where one can be certain (I know many disagree) that they are in communion with Rome.  I would only imagine that it would help dispel any worry that some FEs have about that.  Perhaps an FSSP priest could answer your concerns/criticisms more thoroughly?  Seems worth a conversation.

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« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2008, 11:16:AM »

Quote from: reginacaelorum

I've been thinking about the role of the FSSP in all of this based on StevusMagnus post.  Should the priests of the FSSP rail against specific things from the pulpit?  Maybe.  Do they ever?  I don't know.  But it seems that this is a good and worthy place to attend Mass where one can be certain (I know many disagree) that they are in communion with Rome.  I would only imagine that it would help dispel any worry that some FEs have about that.  Perhaps an FSSP priest could answer your concerns/criticisms more thoroughly?  Seems worth a conversation.

OVER-GENERALIZATION ALERT:
I don't have a broad experience with the FSSP, I only know my local FSSP parish.  But from that experience, they're a lot more interested in forming good Catholics than fighting Church politics.  I've heard the CMRI is like this as well-- it's not about "railing against specific things", they're in the soul-saving business not the polemics business.

Again, I don't have a very wide perspective on this subject, but I don't get the impression that the SSPX operates this way; they're Catholic and pissed about it.
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cunctas_haereses
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« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2008, 01:32:PM »

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Again, I don't have a very wide perspective on this subject, but I don't get the impression that the SSPX operates this way; they're Catholic and pissed about it.

Nice, really nice. Feel better now?
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« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2008, 01:34:PM »

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Again, I don't have a very wide perspective on this subject, but I don't get the impression that the SSPX operates this way; they're Catholic and pissed about it.


Nice, really nice. Feel better now?

No.  But thanks for asking.

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« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2008, 02:30:PM »

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... they're Catholic and pissed about it.


And have every right to be!
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Credo
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« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2008, 02:39:PM »

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they're Catholic and pissed about it.

I don't know about that. A few of the laity might be blowhards, but I've never personally heard a pulpit-pounding sermon from any number of their priests and bishops who have frequented my parish.

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« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2008, 06:19:AM »

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tridentist, it's not that he withdrew his support of the FSSPX that's vexing, it's the way he's gone about. I totally understand people being uncomfortable with the canonical position of the Society, and subsequently leaving.  What's more, there's a lot of stuff principally from the Society-going laity I myself take issue with.

However, it's the "Na-na-na-na-na-na, I'm with the FSSP now and I'm so much more in the Church that you schismatics are"-mentality which is annoying.


Yes, that's true - you have a good point there.

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« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2008, 07:55:AM »

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I, for one, will say this: I have been associated with the SSPX for 10 years and admire them and their priests, and am grateful for what they have done, and continue to do, in service of the Faith and the Tridentine Mass. I do not pretend to agree with every one of their positions - which in themselves do not bind anyone - let alone the opinions of all their bishops, priests or lay faithful in their chapels. In fact, I strongly disagree with many. Fortunately, the majority of the SSPX-supporting laity I have met (admittedly not a great number), are mainly just devout Catholics looking for a place to keep their Faith. However, the overall impression one gets from Trad forums is of the stereotype SSPXer - whom, unfortunately, I have also met in real life - bitter and twisted, cynical, self-righteous, neo-Jansenistic, crypto-sedevacantist Puritans who lash out at anyone who dares disagree with their little group, and calumniates anyone outside the SSPX milieu, especially those who choose to leave it, as quislings, compromising faint-hearts, neo-cons who just love smells and bells and Latin and lace, etc, etc. This "extra SSPX nulla salus" mentality is sick sick sick. Fortunately, in my own chapel, only a few conform to this stereotype, and most do not. I imagine this is the case in most places.

In digesting your point here this is what I umderstamd: although the laity who frequent the same Society chapel as you do don't fit this steriotype and you have met very few in fact who do so yet you feel compelled to point out that the Society laity in general are "bitter, twisted, cynical, self-righteous, neo-Jansenistic, Crypto-sedevacantist Puritans" and are "sick sick sick".

I hope that you don't mind if I feel somehow offended by this.

The attitude of the OP is that "I am leaving but don't have to defend my decision". I believe that's because his reason for leaving is indefensible and he knows it. I don't have to be a Janseistic Puritan to see that since it's simple human psychology.

In witnessing this type of behavior before at least twice that I can recall they ranted and raved against the Society, thanked God for seeing the light and rushed off into the darkness. Later they quietly and sheepishly returned after reexperiencing the craziness of the Novus Ordo.

Deja vu. Pray for him.

~In JMJ


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« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2008, 08:11:AM »

Quote from: Credo

Quote from: gjwalberg
they're Catholic and pissed about it.

I don't know about that. A few of the laity might be blowhards, but I've never personally heard a pulpit-pounding sermon from any number of their priests and bishops who have frequented my parish.


I guess you've never heard the "famous" Father Scott.  He literally pounds the pulpit and shouts like a protestant preacher.  Personally I find it inappropriate, but others may gain something spiritually from it.
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