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Author Topic: We should buy guns, right?  (Read 1658 times)
PeterII
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2008, 09:14:PM »

I am one of the Canadians who went through the whole stupid licensing process and own many handguns and longuns. 

You can still get some pretty neat stuff with a regular gun license, like this:for only $650. 



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Ruination_ipa
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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2008, 12:01:AM »

Every man of the house should be equipped and trained in the use of a firearm for defense of family and state. I get a little fidgety though when someone, prior to a sensationalized news event of impending societal meltdown, spontaneously decides to get a firearm when the interest did not exist prior. Firearm mistakes are costly and so I encourage basic training if you've never owned your own gun. *EVERY* member of the household needs to be familiar with any firearm in the house and they need to see the destructive power of them first hand. Every member needs to be well versed in the basic firearm safety rules.

Besides local firearms training classes take a look at the appleseed programs which are gaining popularity all over the US. See if one is in your area and sign up. I couldn't encourage them more: they'll teach you marksmanship and a little history for dirt cheap (Firearm training at any reputable training ground runs into hundreds/thousands of dollars (I'm not talking local basic training) so $40-$50 a day for appleseed is a steal and is geared for beginners as well as the advanced!)

Check 'em out:
http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=1043.0


 



 

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Montgisard
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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2008, 08:06:AM »

We had a referendum in Brazil in 2005 that asked the population whether the trade of guns and ammunition should be forbidden in the country and the results were not good for the leftist government and the many international organizations that spent millions of dollars in anti-gun propaganda: 63.94% voted against the ban and only 36.06% for it.
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HMiS
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2008, 09:50:AM »

I would buy an arm, but I would rather prepare with gold, jewelry, and especially canned water and food, and have enough in your accounts to pay for water, electricity and mortgage in the months/years to be crucial. Only buying weapons is nonsense, Jesus never told His apostles to use the two swords they bought (in order to fullfil prophecies).

"Arm yourself to the teeth" might make you seem terrorist in the eyes of the state and public. it is not wise to do so.

A gun is legitimate self-defense, but there is no need to build a fortified house with machine guns etc. If they want you, the Homeland Security via the Army will get you. There is no purpose in arming, but in arming yourself with the shield of Faith, which is Christ. Nothing and no one else.

You should have enough in your accounts, make emergency rations, have an evacuation plan if you live in a large city, and you merely need ("need" is relative in fact) a small gun to defend your home and family in case of civil unrest or uprising.
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2008, 12:54:PM »

Quote from: HMiS
I would buy an arm, but I would rather prepare with gold, jewelry, and especially canned water and food, and have enough in your accounts to pay for water, electricity and mortgage in the months/years to be crucial. Only buying weapons is nonsense, Jesus never told His apostles to use the two swords they bought (in order to fullfil prophecies).

"Arm yourself to the teeth" might make you seem terrorist in the eyes of the state and public. it is not wise to do so.

A gun is legitimate self-defense, but there is no need to build a fortified house with machine guns etc. If they want you, the Homeland Security via the Army will get you. There is no purpose in arming, but in arming yourself with the shield of Faith, which is Christ. Nothing and no one else.

You should have enough in your accounts, make emergency rations, have an evacuation plan if you live in a large city, and you merely need ("need" is relative in fact) a small gun to defend your home and family in case of civil unrest or uprising.
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Heinrich
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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2008, 01:01:PM »

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Quote from: HMiS
I would buy an arm, but I would rather prepare with gold, jewelry, and especially canned water and food, and have enough in your accounts to pay for water, electricity and mortgage in the months/years to be crucial. Only buying weapons is nonsense, Jesus never told His apostles to use the two swords they bought (in order to fullfil prophecies).

"Arm yourself to the teeth" might make you seem terrorist in the eyes of the state and public. it is not wise to do so.

A gun is legitimate self-defense, but there is no need to build a fortified house with machine guns etc. If they want you, the Homeland Security via the Army will get you. There is no purpose in arming, but in arming yourself with the shield of Faith, which is Christ. Nothing and no one else.

You should have enough in your accounts, make emergency rations, have an evacuation plan if you live in a large city, and you merely need ("need" is relative in fact) a small gun to defend your home and family in case of civil unrest or uprising.

This is where I will have a slight disagreement with you, per cultural idiosyncracies, Mein Herr. Our accounts(money) are going to be evaporated and our rations are what the government and looters(whom the authorities will use to do their dirty work) wants. OVer here in America one spark is what is needed to inflame our civil society. Those of European descent living in urban centers will feel the wrath. Guns, munitions and incendiaries are needed for protection. I would rather go down in a blaze of glory knowing I protected my wife and children from animals than just letting them club us to death.

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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2008, 04:24:PM »

Okay... can I use an Iron Man suit, complete with flamethrowers? (okay, I don't know if my weak muscles could actually take the weight, but it sure would be awesome for my brother or dad...)

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Ruination_ipa
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2008, 05:15:PM »

Quote from: HMiS
I would buy an arm, but I would rather prepare with gold, jewelry, and especially canned water and food, and have enough in your accounts to pay for water, electricity and mortgage in the months/years to be crucial.

So once you've prepared your stash of gold, jewelry, food etc. how are you going to keep people from taking said gold, jewelry, food etc?

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A gun is legitimate self-defense, but there is no need to build a fortified house with machine guns etc.


I'm assuming you don't live in the US or you are very young? (I don't intend insult by either assumption) but your vision of someone 'fortifying' their home with 'machine guns' is a bit, well... silly!


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If they want you, the Homeland Security via the Army will get you. [ANOTHER INSTANCE OF SILLINESS] There is no purpose in arming


There is a purpose - it's called self defense and every man has a God given right to it. Someone who is unwilling to defend his own home, state, family etc..has a name in America: a coward.

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You should have enough in your accounts, make emergency rations, have an evacuation plan if you live in a large city, and you merely need ("need" is relative in fact) a small gun to defend your home and family in case of civil unrest or uprising.


I'm not sure where you got your idea of only needing a small gun (and in the case of "civil unrest" or "uprising" especially)but it's really naive! I think you've been spoon fed anti-gun propaganda and consumed the contents to excess!

I hope you don't have a family to defend! I would hate to be a kid in a house with murderous assailants kicking in the door and thinking how daddy didn't think us kids were worth it to defend us with something more than a red rider bb gun!

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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2008, 05:27:PM »

Quote from: Ruination_ipa
I hope you don't have a family to defend! I would hate to be a kid in a house with murderous assailants kicking in the door and thinking how daddy didn't think us kids were worth it to defend us with something more than a red rider bb gun!

So, a dad without a gun or guns doesn't care about his children?  Seriously?

What a load of garbage, to put it in a mild and G-rated way.
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Ruination_ipa
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2008, 06:28:PM »

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I hope you don't have a family to defend! I would hate to be a kid in a house with murderous assailants kicking in the door and thinking how daddy didn't think us kids were worth it to defend us with something more than a red rider bb gun!


So, a dad without a gun or guns doesn't care about his children?  Seriously?

What a load of garbage, to put it in a mild and G-rated way.

My question would be: If you knew in advance that multiple armed assailants were going to invade your home would you show up with anything less than a gun?

Why would someone skimp on such an essential home defense device and knowingly put his family at a grave disadvantage?

When God gives the awesome responsibility of a family to a man he is responsible for their physical and spiritual well being. As a parent knows there is nothing more valuable in life than family. People are willing and eager to pay an armed security guard to protect property or body guards for high 'value' personell. Why wouldn't I do the same for my most valued posessions: my family?

In answer to your question I would say I would seriously question the integrity of a man who refused to have a gun for home defense because he was afraid, unwilling, or it was too inconvenient for him to know about them or train with them. Emasculated men aren't much good these days.



 
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