Ecumenism returned

[Baskerville]

http://telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3699565/Muslim-lawyer-Anjem-Choudary-brands-Christmas-evil.html

This sick Muslim pig says Christmas is evil.

But we can all be sure the Pope will be sending his kissy face letters to the Mohammadan headhunters during Rammadan.

[devotedknuckles]

I would like to see Muhammadan heads returned to Muhammadan head hunters but eh call me non ecumenical
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[Baskerville]

I would like to see Muhammadan heads returned to Muhammadan head hunters but eh call me non ecumenical
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I second that.

[antimodernist]

Same here. What an ass.

[QuisUtDeus]

Temporary thread-jacking...
 
Hey Baskerville, I think your .sig is inaccurate
 
"The Novus Ordo Mass, the New Mass or the Mass of Paul VI is a banal, man made, on the spot product" Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger"
 
There are two places I know of where he said something similar to that:
 

The liturgical reform, in its concrete realization, has distanced itself even more from its origin. The result has not been a reanimation, but devastation. In place of the liturgy, fruit of a continual development, they have placed a fabricated liturgy. They have deserted a vital process of growth and becoming in order to substitute a fabrication.They did not want to continue the development, the organic maturing of something living through the centuries, and they replaced it, in the manner of technical production, by a fabrication, a banal product of the moment.

(Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, Revue Theologisches, Vol. 20, Feb. 1990, pgs. 103-104)

 

What happened after the Council was something else entirely: in the place of liturgy as the fruit of development came fabricated liturgy. We abandoned the organic, living process of growth and development over the centuries, and replaced it--as in a manufacturing process--with a fabrication, a banal on- the-spot product. (Preface to Msgr. Gamber's book)

 

Though he is talking about the Novus Ordo, he doesn't mention it by name.  I think we ought to be clear when quoting the Pope.  I suggest a small change to:

 

"[The New Mass is] a fabrication, a banal on-the-spot product"

 

Or something similar.

 

Thread-jacking over. 

 

 

[LaRoza]

I would expect any religious leader to not feel celebrations of other religions are appropriate.

Christmas is a Holy Day. There is nothing wrong with family/secular celebrations, but I feel they have taken over. On Christmas, I'm the only one going to Mass this year (and the last, and the one before that) in my family.

Obviously, the heresy of Islam is not to be accepted (and an Islamic cleric renouncing something is hardly new, they renounce each other more than others).

[Baskerville]

Temporary thread-jacking...
 
Hey Baskerville, I think your .sig is inaccurate
 
"The Novus Ordo Mass, the New Mass or the Mass of Paul VI is a banal, man made, on the spot product" Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger"
 
There are two places I know of where he said something similar to that:
 

The liturgical reform, in its concrete realization, has distanced itself even more from its origin. The result has not been a reanimation, but devastation. In place of the liturgy, fruit of a continual development, they have placed a fabricated liturgy. They have deserted a vital process of growth and becoming in order to substitute a fabrication.They did not want to continue the development, the organic maturing of something living through the centuries, and they replaced it, in the manner of technical production, by a fabrication, a banal product of the moment.

(Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, Revue Theologisches, Vol. 20, Feb. 1990, pgs. 103-104)

 

What happened after the Council was something else entirely: in the place of liturgy as the fruit of development came fabricated liturgy. We abandoned the organic, living process of growth and development over the centuries, and replaced it--as in a manufacturing process--with a fabrication, a banal on- the-spot product. (Preface to Msgr. Gamber's book)

 

Though he is talking about the Novus Ordo, he doesn't mention it by name.  I think we ought to be clear when quoting the Pope.  I suggest a small change to:

 

"[The New Mass is] a fabrication, a banal on-the-spot product"

 

Or something similar.

 

Thread-jacking over. 

 

 

Will do. It was that second quote I had in mind.