how to pronounce this latin prayer

[vicork]

What is the best way to pronounce this please?

Nostris, O Jesu, debitis indulge; erue nos ab ignibus inferni, caelique portas universis pande, miseris praesertim.

Is this the most widely used version and thus, the most correct?

THANK YOU

[LaRoza]

What is the best way to pronounce this please?

Nostris, O Jesu, debitis indulge; erue nos ab ignibus inferni, caelique portas universis pande, miseris praesertim.

Is this the most widely used version and thus, the most correct?

THANK YOU

Latin is pretty easy to pronounce. http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/ecclesiastical_latin.htm

Classical Latin would be different, but follow similiar simple rules.

[vicork]

What is the best way to pronounce this please?

Nostris, O Jesu, debitis indulge; erue nos ab ignibus inferni, caelique portas universis pande, miseris praesertim.

Is this the most widely used version and thus, the most correct?

THANK YOU

Latin is pretty easy to pronounce. http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/ecclesiastical_latin.htm

Classical Latin would be different, but follow similiar simple rules.

I was thinking more along the lines of  NOS-TRIS, IN-DULL-JAY, IN-FER-KNEE, MIZ-ER-REESE

[QuisUtDeus]

Classical Latin would be different, but follow similiar simple rules.

Ugh.  I learned Classical Latin first so I pronounce Ecclesiastical Latin with a weird accent...

[QuisUtDeus]

Nostris, O Jesu, debitis indulge; erue nos ab ignibus inferni, caelique portas universis pande, miseris praesertim.

Is this the most widely used version and thus, the most correct?

I was thinking more along the lines of  NOS-TRIS, IN-DULL-JAY, IN-FER-KNEE, MIZ-ER-REESE

You're pretty close.  This is actually hard to do because, for example, "ab" is pronounced with a short a like "father" not "abdomen" and this won't reflect it.  Also, as I said, I have an accent, so maybe someone can take what I have and correct it...

NO-STREES, O YAY-SOO, DEB-EE-TEES IN-DULL-JAY, ERR-OO-AY NOS AB IN-YEE-BOOSE IN-FER-NEE, CHAY-LEE-QUAY POR-TAS OO-NEE-VER-SEES PAN-DAY, MEE-SER-EES PRAY-SER-TEEM.

[Tim]

Ecclesiastical Latin is pronounced as Italian is pronounced in Rome. While it isn't the Fatima prayer I use, I'm not sure how you would determine if it is the most popular.

[Melkite]

Nostris, O Jesu, debitis indulge; erue nos ab ignibus inferni, caelique portas universis pande, miseris praesertim.

Nohstrees, O Yaysoo, dehbeetees eenduhlgay; airrooyeh nohs ahb eegneeboos infehrnee, kighleekway portahs ooneewehrsees pahndeh, meesehrees prighsehrteem.

[jovan66102]

Nostris, O Jesu, debitis indulge; erue nos ab ignibus inferni, caelique portas universis pande, miseris praesertim.

Nohstrees, O Yaysoo, dehbeetees eenduhlgay; airrooyeh nohs ahb eegneeboos infehrnee, kighleekway portahs ooneewehrsees pahndeh, meesehrees prighsehrteem.

 

Great Classical pronumciation, but I've never heard a Churchman pronounce a 'hard g' (pronounced similar to 'j'), the 'c' in caelique as a hard 'k' (pronounced 'ch' as in 'church') or 'v' as a 'w' (it's simply a 'v').

 

As an aside, of course, we have no idea, really, how Classical Latin was pronounced. Since the Language was transmitted through the Church, the 'Classical' pronunciation is actually a modern 'reconstruction'. Remember, Marcus Tullius Cicero and Publius Vergilius Maro didn't have tape recorders!

[Melkite]

Great Classical pronumciation, but I've never heard a Churchman pronounce a 'hard g' (pronounced similar to 'j'), the 'c' in caelique as a hard 'k' (pronounced 'ch' as in 'church') or 'v' as a 'w' (it's simply a 'v').

Yeah, I'm a linguist at heart, so I kind of have to go with the actual pronunciation.

As an aside, of course, we have no idea, really, how Classical Latin was pronounced. Since the Language was transmitted through the Church, the 'Classical' pronunciation is actually a modern 'reconstruction'. Remember, Marcus Tullius Cicero and Publius Vergilius Maro didn't have tape recorders!

 

I wonder how they came to that conclusion?  I imagine they compared cognates with other IE languages.  I mean, I'm sure they didn't pull "v is actually pronounced like w" out of their butts, right?

[LaRoza]

I wonder how they came to that conclusion?  I imagine they compared cognates with other IE languages.  I mean, I'm sure they didn't pull "v is actually pronounced like w" out of their butts, right?

Yes. The way the V is pronounced is actually the same as other Indo-European languages like Sanskrit.

The real guesswork would come in when it came to specific pronounciation. Classical Latin was probably not how people spoke fully, no matter how proper it was. So how the individuals spoke is a mystery, although the language itself isn't.