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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2009, 04:47:AM » |
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Eh, Planned Parenthood isn't all evil. They have done a lot of good to promote the HPV vaccine which could dramatically reduce ovarian cancer in the US. Not to mention the damn near free STD testing they offer to the public.
Do you know Josef Mengele also was an abortion doctor (from 1935-1940 in Nazi Germany), then inside concentration camps Dachau and Auschwitz-Birkenau (1940-1945), and from 1949-1958 in Buenos Aires (Argentina) in illegality (underground abortion clinic, where he made lots of money). The same for dr. Aribert Heim. Of course Dr. Josef Mengele also by his research helped develop medicines and offered tests to other prison inmates and cured the SS guardsmen from diseases like typhus, or provided them to be evacuated to a hospital in Berlin to be cured. Yes. So what? Does that mean that Mengele should nót be shot and tried by a court-martial? For the worldwide abortion holocaust (one billion children from 1970 until 2009), we'd need the entire territory of Norway to create a new Nuremberg Doctors' Process (Norway Doctors' Process at the Norway Tribunals for abortion criminals). That is how things are really like. You are probably trying to provoke us?
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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2009, 06:22:AM » |
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Planned Parenthood not only performs and promotes abortion, it promotes a contraceptive mentality that causes people to see children as a 'side effect' of sexual activity that you can take or leave. God told the human race to 'be fruitful and multiply'. It's this contraceptive mentality that is causing the whole continent of Europe to have a negative growth rate.
The only legitimate approach to "planned parenthood" is to encourage people to have healthy pregnancies, healthy kids, and healthy families.
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2009, 09:44:AM » |
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Back in 1981 my wife found out she was pregnant (as it turns out, with our third daughter). We were living in Memphis at the time and, just to see what would happen, she called Planned Parenthood. The FIRST question out of their mouths was, "Do you want to terminate?" Not, are you feeling all right, seen a doctor, etc. We weren't Catholic then but were anti-abortion and this pretty well confirmed what we thought about PP. Good riddance to them and I pray for the day when PP facilities will be as welcome in most communities as Ku Klux Klan summer camps.
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2009, 10:11:AM » |
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Eh, Planned Parenthood isn't all evil. They have done a lot of good to promote the HPV vaccine which could dramatically reduce ovarian cancer in the US. Not to mention the damn near free STD testing they offer to the public. HPV vaccine's are fine, as is STD testing.* Nevertheless this cannot excuse for a moment the abominiation this is abortion. *Of course HPV and other STDs wouldn't be a problem if people just listened to what the Church teaches.
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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2009, 10:14:AM » |
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I pray for the day when PP facilities will be as welcome in most communities as Ku Klux Klan summer camps.
This is not impossible if one considers the change of attitude regarding race in the United States.
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I promise not to put anything here which might help us question our mind-forged manacles, inspire us, or help us in any way at all.
N.B.: I will not be posting on this site again until the Christmas octave. Have a good Advent.
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« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2009, 10:18:AM » |
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The problem is, there is no pro-life alternative for those who need free pap smears, std testing, and other low cost gynecological health services. The pro-lifers should provide these things, so women in poverty have an option besides PP.
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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2009, 02:23:PM » |
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The problem is, there is no pro-life alternative for those who need free pap smears, std testing, and other low cost gynecological health services. The pro-lifers should provide these things, so women in poverty have an option besides PP.
I know of at least 5 Crisis pregnacy and free pregnancy help within 5 miles of where I live, also in Philadelphia (nearest Metro to me) there are dozens more, this is a FALSE(or uninformed) ASSERTION! All of them provide counciling, testing, pap smears, ultrsounds and adoption referall. Again this is a False assertion you have made. Maybe if the govt gave as much money to these groups who do not kill babies and hurt woman the way PP does there would be even more. (I am shocked that there are actuall self professed Catholics who are apologists for PP!
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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2009, 02:31:PM » |
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The problem is, there is no pro-life alternative for those who need free pap smears, std testing, and other low cost gynecological health services. The pro-lifers should provide these things, so women in poverty have an option besides PP.
Where I'm from, the public health clinics and hospitals all do that kind of thing, for free or almost free. The same with other types of medical care. Nobody should ever patronize PP or give them a nickel.Which leads me to a question I have, and I wonder if anyone can answer it: The way I understand it, PP used to be a recipient of United Way funds, but a lot of people protested, and United Way stopped funding them. Is it still that way? And also, there is a federal law the prohibits federal money being used to fund abortions. This was supposed to cut off most (maybe not all) federal funding of PP. Does anyone know what the current scoop is on that?
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« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2009, 03:23:PM » |
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The problem is, there is no pro-life alternative for those who need free pap smears, std testing, and other low cost gynecological health services. The pro-lifers should provide these things, so women in poverty have an option besides PP.
I know of at least 5 Crisis pregnacy and free pregnancy help within 5 miles of where I live, also in Philadelphia (nearest Metro to me) there are dozens more, this is a FALSE(or uninformed) ASSERTION! All of them provide counciling, testing, pap smears, ultrsounds and adoption referall.
And what about women who are not pregnant?
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mikeh
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« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2009, 06:22:PM » |
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The problem is, there is no pro-life alternative for those who need free pap smears, std testing, and other low cost gynecological health services. The pro-lifers should provide these things, so women in poverty have an option besides PP.
I know of at least 5 Crisis pregnacy and free pregnancy help within 5 miles of where I live, also in Philadelphia (nearest Metro to me) there are dozens more, this is a FALSE(or uninformed) ASSERTION! All of them provide counciling, testing, pap smears, ultrsounds and adoption referall.
And what about women who are not pregnant?
Well, the point I was trying to make in my previous post is that most public health clinics and hospitals have ob-gyn departments that treat patients for whatever ob-gyn related problem they may have. They don't have to be pregnant. The public health systems in the part of Texas I used to live in certainly did. And they're for people that have low/no incomes or no insurance. Nobody has to go to a PP clinic to get medical care.
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