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Author Topic: Fr. Fitzpatrick vs. Fr. Scott on Validity of SSPX Confessions  (Read 17587 times)
JMartyr
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« Reply #260 on: July 24, 2011, 10:06:AM »

Since you have in the past quoted the Ecclesia Dei commission, I would suggest going to http://www.olfatima.com/thisone.htm and click on communications with the Ecclessis Dei commission.  Read about the talks between the bishop and the commission. They  never say his explanation of canon 1335 was wrong or that the SSPX have invalid confessions.

Unfortunately the cut and paste does not works, but Cardinal meter is clear: one should have grave duty to remain united with the Vicar of Christ, and the confessor has the authority to requite one to desist from attending the Mass celebrated by suspended priest.

http://www.olfatima.com/ecclesiadei.htm


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" When I think that we are in the building of the Holy Office, the outstanding witness of Tradition and defender of the Catholic Faith, I cannot help thinking that I am on my own territory and that it is I whom you call ' the traditionalist' who should be judging you." -  quote from Archbishop Lefebvre when questioned by the CDF


"Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Bishop Antonio de Castro Mayer are the two great saints of the modern Church. Once this catastrophe ends they will be instantly canonized." - Father Malachi Martin
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« Reply #261 on: July 24, 2011, 10:10:AM »

Since you have in the past quoted the Ecclesia Dei commission, I would suggest going to http://www.olfatima.com/thisone.htm and click on communications with the Ecclessis Dei commission.  Read about the talks between the bishop and the commission. They  never say his explanation of canon 1335 was wrong or that the SSPX have invalid confessions.

Unfortunately the cut and paste does not works, but Cardinal meter is clear: one should have grave duty to remain united with the Vicar of Christ, and the confessor has the authority to requite one to desist from attending the Mass celebrated by suspended priest.

http://www.olfatima.com/ecclesiadei.htm


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" When I think that we are in the building of the Holy Office, the outstanding witness of Tradition and defender of the Catholic Faith, I cannot help thinking that I am on my own territory and that it is I whom you call ' the traditionalist' who should be judging you." -  quote from Archbishop Lefebvre when questioned by the CDF


"Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Bishop Antonio de Castro Mayer are the two great saints of the modern Church. Once this catastrophe ends they will be instantly canonized." - Father Malachi Martin
JMartyr
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« Reply #262 on: July 24, 2011, 10:13:AM »

Since you have in the past quoted the Ecclesia Dei commission, I would suggest going to http://www.olfatima.com/thisone.htm and click on communications with the Ecclessis Dei commission.  Read about the talks between the bishop and the commission. They  never say his explanation of canon 1335 was wrong or that the SSPX have invalid confessions.

Unfortunately the cut and paste does not works, but Cardinal meter is clear: one should have grave duty to remain united with the Vicar of Christ, and the confessor has the authority to requite one to desist from attending the Mass celebrated by suspended priest.

http://www.olfatima.com/ecclesiadei.htm


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" When I think that we are in the building of the Holy Office, the outstanding witness of Tradition and defender of the Catholic Faith, I cannot help thinking that I am on my own territory and that it is I whom you call ' the traditionalist' who should be judging you." -  quote from Archbishop Lefebvre when questioned by the CDF


"Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Bishop Antonio de Castro Mayer are the two great saints of the modern Church. Once this catastrophe ends they will be instantly canonized." - Father Malachi Martin
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« Reply #263 on: July 24, 2011, 10:15:AM »

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You must do the same thing what the Ecclesia Dei expected for the SSPX: stop criticizing the Pope, the Council and the Church.

If you like the TLM attend TLM (at a church with full, not suspended, communion with the Pope), but stand to your values, and do not try to define yourself by negatives.
Galatians chapter 2 : verses11-14       I expect a straight answer from Ecclesia Dei. The SSPX are in schism..... now they are not.
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" When I think that we are in the building of the Holy Office, the outstanding witness of Tradition and defender of the Catholic Faith, I cannot help thinking that I am on my own territory and that it is I whom you call ' the traditionalist' who should be judging you." -  quote from Archbishop Lefebvre when questioned by the CDF


"Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Bishop Antonio de Castro Mayer are the two great saints of the modern Church. Once this catastrophe ends they will be instantly canonized." - Father Malachi Martin
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« Reply #264 on: July 24, 2011, 10:17:AM »

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You must do the same thing what the Ecclesia Dei expected for the SSPX: stop criticizing the Pope, the Council and the Church.

If you like the TLM attend TLM (at a church with full, not suspended, communion with the Pope), but stand to your values, and do not try to define yourself by negatives.
Galatians chapter 2 : verses11-14       I expect a straight answer from Ecclesia Dei. The SSPX are in schism..... now they are not.
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" When I think that we are in the building of the Holy Office, the outstanding witness of Tradition and defender of the Catholic Faith, I cannot help thinking that I am on my own territory and that it is I whom you call ' the traditionalist' who should be judging you." -  quote from Archbishop Lefebvre when questioned by the CDF


"Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Bishop Antonio de Castro Mayer are the two great saints of the modern Church. Once this catastrophe ends they will be instantly canonized." - Father Malachi Martin


JMartyr
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« Reply #265 on: July 24, 2011, 10:18:AM »

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You must do the same thing what the Ecclesia Dei expected for the SSPX: stop criticizing the Pope, the Council and the Church.

If you like the TLM attend TLM (at a church with full, not suspended, communion with the Pope), but stand to your values, and do not try to define yourself by negatives.
Galatians chapter 2 : verses11-14       I expect a straight answer from Ecclesia Dei. The SSPX are in schism..... now they are not.
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" When I think that we are in the building of the Holy Office, the outstanding witness of Tradition and defender of the Catholic Faith, I cannot help thinking that I am on my own territory and that it is I whom you call ' the traditionalist' who should be judging you." -  quote from Archbishop Lefebvre when questioned by the CDF


"Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Bishop Antonio de Castro Mayer are the two great saints of the modern Church. Once this catastrophe ends they will be instantly canonized." - Father Malachi Martin
JMartyr
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« Reply #266 on: July 24, 2011, 10:20:AM »

Since you have in the past quoted the Ecclesia Dei commission, I would suggest going to http://www.olfatima.com/thisone.htm and click on communications with the Ecclessis Dei commission.  Read about the talks between the bishop and the commission. They  never say his explanation of canon 1335 was wrong or that the SSPX have invalid confessions.

Unfortunately the cut and paste does not works, but Cardinal meter is clear: one should have grave duty to remain united with the Vicar of Christ, and the confessor has the authority to requite one to desist from attending the Mass celebrated by suspended priest.

http://www.olfatima.com/ecclesiadei.htm


Maybe I should go to the new mass down the road where ,acording to a relative that goes there,  the priest in confession spoke of the congregation as being necessary to have a 'eucharist ' or maybe  the approved latin mass 50 miles further than the SSPX chapel where the priest that says the TLM gives communion in the hand at the NO which according to St. Thomas is a sacrilege . I  love this priest as a father and yet realize he is in a position where he has to compromise the Faith.    :(
My relative says now this is not true. I must have made a mistake
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" When I think that we are in the building of the Holy Office, the outstanding witness of Tradition and defender of the Catholic Faith, I cannot help thinking that I am on my own territory and that it is I whom you call ' the traditionalist' who should be judging you." -  quote from Archbishop Lefebvre when questioned by the CDF


"Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Bishop Antonio de Castro Mayer are the two great saints of the modern Church. Once this catastrophe ends they will be instantly canonized." - Father Malachi Martin
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