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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2009, 04:28:PM » |
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It's not the sport in and of itself, but the culture, and the risk for the souls of impressionable young children who admire these idols of society.
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Left forums. Please delete account. Sincerely disappointed. Please pray for me, I will continue to pray for you all. And please, pray for this nation. Ashamed that traditional Catholics have given in to the "bourgeosie" culture of the Protestant ethic. Hurt to think that those who should be salt for the earth prefer throwing sand in others eyes to Charity and conversion. Veteran ashamed to think my brothers and sisters should pray for the destruction of the nation I served, consumed in hatred. May good priests offer the Sacrifice of the Holy Mass for the restoration of the Church, because I don't know where to find her at all any more. God save us all, and God give us the answers, because it seems no one has them.
" And if I should have prophecy and should know all mysteries, and all knowledge, and if I should have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing."-1 Corinthians 13:2
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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2009, 04:28:PM » |
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Don't you think this is a little over-the-top? I think it's a great gesture- it reminds me of a proud son presenting something that means a lot to him to his father. And the Pope is, of course, our Holy Father
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Domine non sum dignus ut intres sub tectum meum, sed tantum dic verbo et sanabitur anima mea
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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2009, 04:35:PM » |
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No offense, but are you a troll?
First you said it was an amoral sport. Then you said it wasn't the sport itself but the culture.
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"We're from Jersey. Not New Jersey, just Jersey. We curse a lot. We say "yo" and we say it often. We sure as hell don't pump our own gas. We know what real pizza tastes like and we know that a bagel is much more than a roll wit a hole in the middle. We judge people by what exit they are off the parkway or by what mall they live closest to. We drive SUVs and we tailgate any chance we get. All good nights must end in a diner, preferably with cheese fries. It's a sub, not a hoagie or a hero. and I wash it down with soda, not pop. I have a dawg, and I drink cawfee. ..and New York City, is "the city." We know 65 mph means 80 mph."-Anon
Foolish then, is he who departs from the Vicar of Christ Crucified, who has the keys of the Blood, or who goes against him . . . Even though the pope were satan incarnate himself, I may not lift up my head against him, but I must always humble myself, and beg for the Blood as a mercy, for in no other wise can I obtain a part of it -St. Catherine of Sienna.
If desire has equal power with actual Baptism, you would then be satisfied to desire Glory, as though that longing itself were Glory!-St. Gregory Nazianzen.
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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2009, 04:37:PM » |
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Didishroom, no I am not. I have been on this forum for a bit of time. Maybe I am the only one who is offended by this. I cannot make a judgement of all the players, but I do know that there is a great deal of unedifying behavior from all categories of sportsmen/celebrities.
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Left forums. Please delete account. Sincerely disappointed. Please pray for me, I will continue to pray for you all. And please, pray for this nation. Ashamed that traditional Catholics have given in to the "bourgeosie" culture of the Protestant ethic. Hurt to think that those who should be salt for the earth prefer throwing sand in others eyes to Charity and conversion. Veteran ashamed to think my brothers and sisters should pray for the destruction of the nation I served, consumed in hatred. May good priests offer the Sacrifice of the Holy Mass for the restoration of the Church, because I don't know where to find her at all any more. God save us all, and God give us the answers, because it seems no one has them.
" And if I should have prophecy and should know all mysteries, and all knowledge, and if I should have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing."-1 Corinthians 13:2
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2009, 04:39:PM » |
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I'm outraged as well. Why didn't West Ham give the Pope a football t-shirt?
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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2009, 04:41:PM » |
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But you are making a judgment. This man gives his jersey to the pontiff as a simple and wonderful gesture of appreciation.
But because, according to you, many sport men live amoral lives this man must be one himself and thus this whole gesture is wrong and makes you 'red in the face'? Even if this man does live an immoral life what does that have to do with giving the pope a gift? Did you realize that the Vatican is filled with priceless treasures that were not bought but given by countless heads of State for over a millenia, many of whom were definetly immoral?
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"We're from Jersey. Not New Jersey, just Jersey. We curse a lot. We say "yo" and we say it often. We sure as hell don't pump our own gas. We know what real pizza tastes like and we know that a bagel is much more than a roll wit a hole in the middle. We judge people by what exit they are off the parkway or by what mall they live closest to. We drive SUVs and we tailgate any chance we get. All good nights must end in a diner, preferably with cheese fries. It's a sub, not a hoagie or a hero. and I wash it down with soda, not pop. I have a dawg, and I drink cawfee. ..and New York City, is "the city." We know 65 mph means 80 mph."-Anon
Foolish then, is he who departs from the Vicar of Christ Crucified, who has the keys of the Blood, or who goes against him . . . Even though the pope were satan incarnate himself, I may not lift up my head against him, but I must always humble myself, and beg for the Blood as a mercy, for in no other wise can I obtain a part of it -St. Catherine of Sienna.
If desire has equal power with actual Baptism, you would then be satisfied to desire Glory, as though that longing itself were Glory!-St. Gregory Nazianzen.
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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2009, 04:47:PM » |
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Anyone want to fill me in on why football is diabolical and amoral? Dare I ask? What is diabolical is that soccer is being called football. I don't see any insult though. LOL! |
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2009, 04:59:PM » |
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Football in Europe is a kind of paganism with players worshipped like pagan gods(Zidane, Beckham...)
The money amounts paid to them are wholly immoral while a good part of these are earned by fraud. Corruption, cheating and scandals are everywhere.
Even poor peoples and workers are happy to spare money from their meager wages to spend it in the sunday's worshipping ceremonies.
Not speaking about the violence reigning in an outside the stadiums with alcohol, drug and immorality.
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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2009, 05:00:PM » |
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Football in Europe is a kind of paganism with players worshipped like pagan gods(Zidane, Beckham...)
The money amounts paid to them are wholly immoral while a good part of these are earned by fraud. Corruption, cheating and scandals are everywhere.
Even poor peoples and workers are happy to spare money from their meager wages to spend it in the sunday's worshipping ceremonies.
Not speaking about the violence reigning in an outside the stadiums with alcohol, drug and immorality.
Sounds exactly like American Football. Only we don't have hooligans. |
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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2009, 05:00:PM » |
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I think "ATrueCatholic" is having a laugh at our expense.
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