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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2009, 05:18:PM » |
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If I have my facts right, Benedict XVI asked for publicity of this type; he was complaining that he wasn't famous enough to the world and needed this status to reach out to the Gentiles - he also wanted more about him in the newsletter. I don't think celebrity status is quite the way to do it. Soon we'll have little pop-ups with Benedict XVI's head bobbing back and forth asking to see if our IQ is higher than his. I just pray thatwe don't see him on the front of People magazine. What is the world coming too...?
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I n N omine P atris, E t F ilii, E t S piritus S ancti "The practice of the Church has always been the same, as is shown by the unanimous teaching of the Fathers, who were wont to hold as outside Catholic communion, and alien to the Church, whoever would recede in the least degree from any point of doctrine proposed by her authoritative magisterium" (Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum, no. 9, June 29, 1896). “Wherefore, brethren, labour the more, that by good works you may make sure your calling and election. For doing these things, you shall not sin at any time” (2 Peter 1:10).
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« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2009, 05:22:PM » |
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Football in Europe is a kind of paganism with players worshipped like pagan gods(Zidane, Beckham...)
That's certainly debatable. I see no problem with innocent 'hero worship.' Such a thing certainly wasn' alien even in Christian cultures.
The money amounts paid to them are wholly immoral while a good part of these are earned by fraud. Corruption, cheating and scandals are everywhere.
While the amount they are paid certainly seems ridiculous, it's based on much they are worth. These players bring in much more with peoplecoming to see them so naturally, the players should get a certain percentage o matter how much it is. People pay for tickets to see players pay. Alot of people come and watch on TV. Thus they make alot of money. What's the big deal?
Even poor peoples and workers are happy to spare money from their meager wages to spend it in the sunday's worshipping ceremonies.
Not speaking about the violence reigning in an outside the stadiums with alcohol, drug and immorality
And I'm sure Catholic jousting was all sober and contained.
I think it's better for people to watch something like a physical sport than all the trash on TV. Many people involved in the sport buisnness may be immoral. But there is nothing immoral in watching it or playing it.
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SaintSebastian
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« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2009, 05:28:PM » |
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And I'm sure Catholic jousting was all sober and contained. Actually, jousting was forbidden by the Third Lateran Council under Pope Alexander III  : 20. Following the footsteps of our predecessors of happy memory, popes Innocent and Eugenius, we forbid those abominable jousts and fairs, which are commonly called tournaments, in which knights come together by agreement and rashly engage in showing off their physical prowess and daring, and which often result in human deaths and danger to souls. If any of them dies on these occasions, although forgiveness {16 } is not to be denied him when he requests it, he is to be deprived of a church burial. http://www.piar.hu/councils/ecum11.htm |
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« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2009, 05:28:PM » |
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If I have my facts right, Benedict XVI asked for publicity of this type; he was complaining that he wasn't famous enough to the world and needed this status to reach out to the Gentiles - he also wanted more about him in the newsletter. I don't think celebrity status is quite the way to do it. Soon we'll have little pop-ups with Benedict XVI's head bobbing back and forth asking to see if our IQ is higher than his. I just pray thatwe don't see him on the front of People magazine. What is the world coming too...?
Where did you get such crap from?
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"We're from Jersey. Not New Jersey, just Jersey. We curse a lot. We say "yo" and we say it often. We sure as hell don't pump our own gas. We know what real pizza tastes like and we know that a bagel is much more than a roll wit a hole in the middle. We judge people by what exit they are off the parkway or by what mall they live closest to. We drive SUVs and we tailgate any chance we get. All good nights must end in a diner, preferably with cheese fries. It's a sub, not a hoagie or a hero. and I wash it down with soda, not pop. I have a dawg, and I drink cawfee. ..and New York City, is "the city." We know 65 mph means 80 mph."-Anon
Foolish then, is he who departs from the Vicar of Christ Crucified, who has the keys of the Blood, or who goes against him . . . Even though the pope were satan incarnate himself, I may not lift up my head against him, but I must always humble myself, and beg for the Blood as a mercy, for in no other wise can I obtain a part of it -St. Catherine of Sienna.
If desire has equal power with actual Baptism, you would then be satisfied to desire Glory, as though that longing itself were Glory!-St. Gregory Nazianzen.
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« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2009, 05:30:PM » |
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Actually, jousting was forbidden by the Third Lateran Council under Pope Alexander III
Because of it's abuses and tendencies towards many sins and ultimately death.
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"We're from Jersey. Not New Jersey, just Jersey. We curse a lot. We say "yo" and we say it often. We sure as hell don't pump our own gas. We know what real pizza tastes like and we know that a bagel is much more than a roll wit a hole in the middle. We judge people by what exit they are off the parkway or by what mall they live closest to. We drive SUVs and we tailgate any chance we get. All good nights must end in a diner, preferably with cheese fries. It's a sub, not a hoagie or a hero. and I wash it down with soda, not pop. I have a dawg, and I drink cawfee. ..and New York City, is "the city." We know 65 mph means 80 mph."-Anon
Foolish then, is he who departs from the Vicar of Christ Crucified, who has the keys of the Blood, or who goes against him . . . Even though the pope were satan incarnate himself, I may not lift up my head against him, but I must always humble myself, and beg for the Blood as a mercy, for in no other wise can I obtain a part of it -St. Catherine of Sienna.
If desire has equal power with actual Baptism, you would then be satisfied to desire Glory, as though that longing itself were Glory!-St. Gregory Nazianzen.
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« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2009, 05:34:PM » |
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I was saying that a bit tongue-in-cheek. I don't equate jousting with soccer and I don't have a problem with the picture in the OP, but maybe the point of the OP was that soccer has similar abuses and deaths (usually when there are riots)? |
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« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2009, 05:43:PM » |
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I would just blame that on crazy Europeans( I know it's redundant). Americans are pretty hardcore when it comes to our sports like football, baseball, basketball and hockey but we don't have anything like those riots.
According to an epsiode of The Simpsons soccer is so boring that the people riot in order to have something to do. I thought that was pretty funny. Soccer is quite dul to watch.
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"We're from Jersey. Not New Jersey, just Jersey. We curse a lot. We say "yo" and we say it often. We sure as hell don't pump our own gas. We know what real pizza tastes like and we know that a bagel is much more than a roll wit a hole in the middle. We judge people by what exit they are off the parkway or by what mall they live closest to. We drive SUVs and we tailgate any chance we get. All good nights must end in a diner, preferably with cheese fries. It's a sub, not a hoagie or a hero. and I wash it down with soda, not pop. I have a dawg, and I drink cawfee. ..and New York City, is "the city." We know 65 mph means 80 mph."-Anon
Foolish then, is he who departs from the Vicar of Christ Crucified, who has the keys of the Blood, or who goes against him . . . Even though the pope were satan incarnate himself, I may not lift up my head against him, but I must always humble myself, and beg for the Blood as a mercy, for in no other wise can I obtain a part of it -St. Catherine of Sienna.
If desire has equal power with actual Baptism, you would then be satisfied to desire Glory, as though that longing itself were Glory!-St. Gregory Nazianzen.
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« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2009, 05:47:PM » |
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What a ridiculous thread.
Jousting is awesome, but I had forgotten it was banned by Lateran III; mainly for the same reasons as dueling (though, like the old papal bans against smoking, I don't think the ban lasted very long). Jousting was still a major sport all the way up to the 17th century. My church actually has a jousting tournament at our mini-Ren Fair every year.
Anyway, Europeans have had sports celebrities for practically forever. Edward the Black Prince, anyone?
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« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2009, 05:55:PM » |
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Yea soccer is pretty offensive, but not half as offensive as that pic in your avatar...... |
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To defend oneself, one must also be ready to die. There is little such readiness in a society raised in the cult of material well-being. Nothing is left, then, but concessions, attempts to gain time, and betrayal.
--- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
"Wrong is wrong even if everybody is doing it, and right is right even if nobody is doing it."
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« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2009, 05:56:PM » |
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Football in Europe is a kind of paganism with players worshipped like pagan gods(Zidane, Beckham...)
The money amounts paid to them are wholly immoral while a good part of these are earned by fraud. Corruption, cheating and scandals are everywhere.
Even poor peoples and workers are happy to spare money from their meager wages to spend it in the sunday's worshipping ceremonies.
Not speaking about the violence reigning in an outside the stadiums with alcohol, drug and immorality.
Sounds exactly like American Football. Only we don't have hooligans. No we don't, we have criminals and they're the players, not the fans. |
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To defend oneself, one must also be ready to die. There is little such readiness in a society raised in the cult of material well-being. Nothing is left, then, but concessions, attempts to gain time, and betrayal.
--- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
"Wrong is wrong even if everybody is doing it, and right is right even if nobody is doing it."
-St. Augustine Doctor of the Church
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
George Orwell
There is no limit to investigating the truth; until you discover it.
- Cicero
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